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Cosco Vs Yangzijiang --- which will you invest ?
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NewHope
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20-Mar-2013 01:04
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Anyone share the same concern?
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Hulumas
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02-Mar-2013 22:10
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Dear AKChua & HawKeYe, Thank you for your prompt responses. It is indeed clear all my doubt and certainly, I 'll load much more up YZJ share accordingly instead. |
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NewHope
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02-Mar-2013 00:13
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Any possibility that someone pays Citi to take the warrant.  Just thinking aloud. | ||||
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akchua
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01-Mar-2013 23:43
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Hi Hulumas,   Sorry for late reply, I am in China now. Warrant is a very simple financial instrument, a lot of company issue warrant to shareholder or financial institution. In the case of YZJ, Citi group is confident of YZJ future performance, so they are willing to pay 19 million to subscribe YZJ warrant, read announcement for more details. 1. in the event the strike price is not hit, warrant not exercise, YZJ will still make 18million from citi group, 1 million is for legal, sgx and other fees if i remember correctly, read announcement for details. 2. answer same as 1. 3. Since SGX has reviewed and approved the warrant, there shouldn't any consequent cost or penalty later. Citi group is big enough to understand the risk of the warrant and high strike price. Please read my post under YZJ title earlier. Hope I have cleared your doubt.
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Hawkeye
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01-Mar-2013 21:32
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Do you think Citi will spend 18million dollars on YZJ warrant to exercise at 1.50cts if YZJ do not worth sgd1.50? Do you know that YZJ earnings is consistently good? while all other shipbuilders are loosing money YZJ making good profit? Good Management who are interested to earn money. Thats what we want. Do you know that YZJ yearly NAV increase by about 10cts? Now YZJ NAV is about 86cts. Next year will be 95cts? Huh?? Do you really think YZJ worth less than 90cts? If YZJ go below 90cts, I have enough to load up and retire with a good overseas property in Aussie country. Ha Ha Ha.
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Hulumas
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01-Mar-2013 13:18
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Share price has been factored in about today price perhaps.
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Hulumas
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01-Mar-2013 13:08
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I do not mean to offend you, for transparent, fair and legal purposes. Have you ever thought: 1. Is there any penalty by YZJ, if CITI not to exercise the warrant fully when the time due? 2. Is there any penalty by YZJ, if CITI not to push the price to about Sgd. 1.56 as you said? 3.  Any consequent cost beared by YZJ & or by CITI to the SGX controller, if the share price is not achieving about > Sgd. 1.50  at the due date, to protect the market player's interest? Care to share your view and comment please.
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Hulumas
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01-Mar-2013 12:48
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Wrong! It should be bearish mood bearish talk, market always reacts that way!.
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slslslsl
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01-Mar-2013 10:18
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looks like going downtrend again... i don't believe it will up to $1 again in near future. | ||||
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tkc_drew
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27-Feb-2013 16:31
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So tomorrow going to reach 1SGD/share le? 
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cdodkny
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25-Feb-2013 09:28
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For YZJ go long won't go wrong.  |
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akchua
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25-Feb-2013 09:02
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YZJ is the best. 5 cents dividend and wait for citi group to push to $1.56 for . Cant think of any reason not to buy. lol |
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darkknight
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23-Feb-2013 11:56
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Nah, will pass. YZJ in my opinion is a better bet  though  as upside surprise is higher and downside is  limited because of  it's large asset base. Kind of  similar to  the sentiment  with Apple right now. Plus 5% dividend is better than 2%.
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New123
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22-Feb-2013 23:04
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don't worry too much. the more u hesitate the more u will see it price  climb up . above $1.00 next week.. | ||||
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darkknight
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22-Feb-2013 22:06
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Perhaps, and Cosco has a healthier order book too through  its offshore venture. 30% of YZJ profit is from it's financial activities  using its large cash pile that cushion the lower order book, but might be  view as a risky diversification. I think YZJ future negativity is build into the price while Cosco future hope is built into the price, which might  explain the EPS disparity. Will stay away from Cosco for now,  its  20+ P/E ratio just seem too risky for me to stomach.  
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ronleech
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22-Feb-2013 19:35
Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......" |
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cosco i guess their biz is more diversified than YZJ.  | ||||
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Peter_Pan
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22-Feb-2013 19:09
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HEADWINDS REMAIN |
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darkknight
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22-Feb-2013 18:28
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COSCO  is 4 times more expensive than Yangzijian based on EPS, but yet they are  trading at the same price range...puzzle...
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slslslsl
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22-Feb-2013 17:19
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last an hour for today, huge volume buy and sell... it will be interesting next week. | ||||
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ronleech
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22-Feb-2013 17:10
Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......" |
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$1 by this month monday ead is highly possible...think turn around for both Cosco and YZJ... | ||||
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