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elfinchilde
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29-Mar-2007 20:26
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hey lewsh, would like to hear more abt your experiences in the kalimantan jungle actually. sounds very interesting. here's to courage and a life less ordinary! *cheers!* :) and yea, hullo to my godpa, da gege, gege and my two pets. keke. nites! |
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lewsh88
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29-Mar-2007 20:19
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Hi elf, Very good article and informative. Agreed with you 100% and 110% the last paragraph. That's why in my field, for 26 years, I'm the only known Singaporean running around the whole of Indonesian Kalimantan jungle!! By the grace of God, still alive and kicking!!! |
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elfinchilde
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29-Mar-2007 20:19
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eastonbay, thanks for that refreshing breath of rationality. yes, i'm not a superscale. and civil service logic dictates that i'll probably never be a superscale. why? 1) I'm not a scholar. 2) I'm female. eg, For the first jump in ranking, females need to 'tun' at least 2-3 years. No matter how capable you are, no matter how good the work you produce. For the guys, as long as they don't majorly screw up, even if they coast along, they get a promo in the first year. logic? "Oh, 'cos guys serve NS". It's the kind of logic that'd be laughed out of any private firm. and in case anyone is wondering: is elf a typical civil servant? No, i'm not. Elf does things for the heck of it. Life's meant to be lived dangerously. ain't it? ;) ok gotta go, tata ppl! |
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elfinchilde
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29-Mar-2007 20:10
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chinkiasu/sporeguy: re a*star: turnover rate: i didn't mean of researchers/scientists, i meant of ordinary staff--like your biz comm people, marketing, etc. If you talk abt scientists, then it's your degree and the quality of the papers you publish that determines your status and desirability in an international field. If it's job posting then really, the science arena internationally esp when down to specific bugs/fields of speciality, is relatively small. Most job transfers etc are internally settled, via recommendations by your professors who know someone else. a*star or not doesn't matter a whit at all. why i agree with lee wei ling: 1) s'pore jobs data posts that the biomedical (ie, pharmaceutical) output is very high and accounts as our fifth pillar of economy, that it brings in a lot of jobs. But note: that is manufacturing output. think assembly line making prozac, or whatever. It also means jobs available are low end, blue collar types. in other words, false advertising on the 'booming' life sciences. 2) why false advertising? Yes, they lured big names here: Eli Lilly and Johns Hopkins set up labs here. Everyone knows that. But how many of you know that the JHU labs started with 11, and have eventually closed down to only 1, a shell lab that does practically nothing? Eli Lilly's come and gone, btw. The labs are shells. 3) In terms of researchers and jobs: Yes, you have the big names like Sydney Brenner. But they come here, set up labs, then they go. Our principal investigators (PIs) are foreigners. Our PhD students are PRC chinese and indians. Where does that leave the singaporeans? 4) Singaporeans on a*star scholarship: caveat emptor. you need to keep a GPA of at least 4.8 out of 5, if not, your scholarship is 'under review'. They have a clause that lets them cut you off during your studies if you fall below that. But anyone of you who ever studied via the modular system will know: one C takes an entire semester of 6 As to bring it up to GPA of 4.5. In other words, no mistake allowed. 5) Qn to all of you here: Ever wondered why Philip Yeo is suddenly being shifted out of a*star, when his 'vision' has not been realised? Think about it. ministers salary: in statistical terms: 1) they justified the ministers increase by comparison with the top 8 professionals in 6 fields. My qn: are ALL the ministers performing to such a high level? it's a simple thing, that a top banker gets paid that much because he BRINGS IN that much income. 2) Therefore: taking a median is fine, but the median should be of the ENTIRE industry, not just the top 8. The alternative: just as the rest of us civil servants are ranked, then likewise, let the people rank their ministers. Only the top 8 ministers should get the top 8 salary. lausk: if my salary were that high, would i need to invest? I'm not even getting one tenth a minister's pay. For a job like mine, we're 24/7 on call, the moment we get notice, we'll dump our families, everything, to go back to work. We put our lives for this stupid country. NS is child's play. Are you prepared to make such a sacrifice? If not, there's no comparison to make, no 'obscene' salary at all. Ministers don't die for their country. People like us do. And we get paid nothing in comparison. Singaporeans by and large are too soft, too sheltered, too narrow-minded. That's why we're gonna get eaten alive by the chinese and indians. haha. |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 17:36
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Fairygal... no problem... :) Anyway, what counters are you holding now? |
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chinkiasu
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29-Mar-2007 17:27
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FairyGal, I think the two have got something in common, they are ppl of strong character and they like to "needle" each other.. keke, or sometimes try to tolerate each other.... heh heh... we the mousedeers, in between try to stay out of the way when sparks fly... (actually, I like both of them, each has their very good points ). I am the one who got vested in SPC shares sama sama with Geojam (he has a very much bigger investment)... |
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Fairygal
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29-Mar-2007 17:07
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Sorry! Must be the years catching up or too many things on my mind! Must learn to relax. Mr Bean's new movie is great for temporary relief! Really kekekekek! |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 16:38
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Nothing in common! |
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Fairygal
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29-Mar-2007 16:29
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Both of you vested in SPC, right? |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 16:14
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Fairygal... Why the association? |
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Fairygal
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29-Mar-2007 16:08
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Ipunter, But of course! I meant an additional buddy! So, geojam and you must be so happy with SPC's price? |
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baseerahmed
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29-Mar-2007 16:05
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Fairygal : Thank you. |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 15:37
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I treat you as a buddy too... :) Especially when everytime I pass the minced pork stalls, I can't help but think of you (and the lucky underdogs)... |
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Fairygal
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29-Mar-2007 15:30
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Before I begin, ****** Pixie Dust****** for all! Geojam, Dun laugh at my English la! Bottomline: Be satisfied with what you have and reach those within reach. Chinkiasu: You must be a Shakespeare fanatic. Pardon my term. I left him in my JC after I realised that Desdemona should be more out-spoken. A tragedy! Still prefer the DD and SS curves! So, where's your next destination? ipunter, Hey, you 've got a new buddy in BaseerAhmed! Welcome, Baseerahmed! |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 15:00
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BaseerAhmed... Not to worry about that comment "paiseh... paiseh" of yours... :) It is correct and it's simply a polite and friendly expression. |
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baseerahmed
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29-Mar-2007 14:42
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iPunter: Ah..that's very reassuring...we ikan bilis can now happily go out and play ! (Not that I didn't know what the answer will be: just part of education ) |
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lewsh88
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29-Mar-2007 14:24
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I think if we watch our language in the bantering, not to worry too much as the garmen also wants feed back. Of course there are garmen people in this forum. Hosan Leong's jokes in Talking Cock Paliament are worse. |
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iPunter
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29-Mar-2007 14:23
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baseerahmed... I should think that the (Big Boys) Big Funds simply treat us in this forum as part of 'the masses'. I see no reason for them to bother at all, since they move the market. |
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baseerahmed
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29-Mar-2007 12:59
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Talking of spies and conspiracy theory....just wondering if the big boys are watching the postings of SJ and making their plans, especially now that there are more happenings going on after the simon session's last week . What a 'catch' it would be if 8000 odd forummers think alike and act alike ! |
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baseerahmed
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29-Mar-2007 12:52
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ipunter : Aiyah...paiseh paiseh leh. Just becos I drop some primary school proverbs doesn't make me a sage from the mountain leh. I am just as ordinary man just as the next man on the street mah. ( I hope I used the correct chinese terms...kindly excuse me if used the wrong one : ) |
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