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Road to recovery in next 1-2 years
louis_leecs
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28-Oct-2010 23:27     
 
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 Alert Admin 		patience wait to buy low,,,,,,,,,,,target price for accumulate
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28-Oct-2010 18:57     
 
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 Alert Admin 		You're sending positive signal and I appreciate it. I also tend to agree with you because when I look at the chart 13.5cents is a breakout turn support level.

Gaastra      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 17:12) Posted:



 

The last transaction for today: 
17:05:03 0.135 855,000 A


Well, it's not a huge buy up like in the millions but it's a change... in the past few weeks, we saw more huge sell downs at 1705.

So, 2 positive things we see today: Low volume today (signifies a drying up of speculative sell-downs) and a significant buy up at 1705.

Let's see what happens tomorrow....

But going by what we observe today, and looking at the charts, they all point to a turn UP....

 

 
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28-Oct-2010 17:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Well said... I hope you are right.
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The last transaction for today: 
17:05:03 0.135 855,000 A


Well, it's not a huge buy up like in the millions but it's a change... in the past few weeks, we saw more huge sell downs at 1705.

So, 2 positive things we see today: Low volume today (signifies a drying up of speculative sell-downs) and a significant buy up at 1705.

Let's see what happens tomorrow....

But going by what we observe today, and looking at the charts, they all point to a turn UP....

 

 
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Gaastra
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28-Oct-2010 16:25     
 
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Yo des,

If you've been reading my posts, the selling is drying up. that is why the volume today is so low. We are hitting the limit of 250m plus shares that i've assessed to be in the "speculative" pool, cumulatively for the past 4 weeks.

When the volumes have dropped to the levels we see today, the turning pt is gonna happen soon...

And don't be too hard on yourself - we all live and learn...

 

 



des_khor      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 15:54) Posted:

Don't chase stocks....now regretted as kenal stuck liao...
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28-Oct-2010 15:54     
 
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28-Oct-2010 15:52     
 
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 Alert Admin 		even at current 13 cts, it has more than double from 6 cts ! what's more do u want. I pity those hold at 22 ct. Gd luck.
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28-Oct-2010 13:37     
 
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That's because the selling is drying up .... anyone trying to push down the price will be taking a huge risk..



AnthonyTan      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 12:36) Posted:

Wat's happening to this counter? Oni done 774 lot.
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lawcheemeng
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28-Oct-2010 13:33     
 
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 Alert Admin 		In the stock market anything can happen lah....hehehe.......may be go back to 3 cts.......or go up to 25cts........anything can happen wanna........hehehe..........important must know when to sell......hehehe.....i m still trying hard to do that......buying anyone also know mah.....hehehe

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 13:18) Posted:

If it go below 10cts, then maybe you will wait again

for below 5 cts lor. Those who bought into this stock

are PL's partners.



lawcheemeng      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 12:51) Posted:

all run road liao lor......hehehe.......wait for it to go lower back to below 10cts......then see.....hehehe
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AnthonyTan
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28-Oct-2010 13:18     
 
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If it go below 10cts, then maybe you will wait again

for below 5 cts lor. Those who bought into this stock

are PL's partners.



lawcheemeng      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 12:51) Posted:

all run road liao lor......hehehe.......wait for it to go lower back to below 10cts......then see.....hehehe


AnthonyTan      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 12:36) Posted:

Wat's happening to this counter? Oni done 774 lot.
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lawcheemeng
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 Alert Admin 		all run road liao lor......hehehe.......wait for it to go lower back to below 10cts......then see.....hehehe


AnthonyTan      ( Date: 28-Oct-2010 12:36) Posted:

Wat's happening to this counter? Oni done 774 lot.
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27-Oct-2010 21:16     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Good points Gaastro. I tend to agree with you. Smiley

Gaastra      ( Date: 27-Oct-2010 18:07) Posted:



 

My take: PL won't sell.

I think there's some collaboration going on between PL and Vincent Tan. The 2 of them are in TMC Life Sciences Bhd as well - a company listed in KL. And the % shareholdings in TMC are also about the same between the 2 as in Informatics.

I mean, after 1 month of persistent, low volume daily selling, we still have no news of SSH dumping - so that's GOOD NEWS.

After looking at the price trend for Informatics, I'll say this could happen: It'll TURN the corner by next week. 0.13 to 0.135 is the bottom.

Why?

1) Since the last high of 18.5c on 28 Sep, it's been downhill since 29 Sep. We're coming close to a month this week. How long more can it last? Plus i believe it's quarterly report is around the corner.

2) The cumulative no of shares traded since 29 Sep is about 250m plus shares. These represent the 20% speculative shares I was talking about in my posts below. It can't surpass this figure by alot UNLESS a SSH sells big time. Supply of shares for selling are running out.

It'll go up from here.

 
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27-Oct-2010 18:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Good post Gaastra! I hope u are right!!!
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My take: PL won't sell.

I think there's some collaboration going on between PL and Vincent Tan. The 2 of them are in TMC Life Sciences Bhd as well - a company listed in KL. And the % shareholdings in TMC are also about the same between the 2 as in Informatics.

I mean, after 1 month of persistent, low volume daily selling, we still have no news of SSH dumping - so that's GOOD NEWS.

After looking at the price trend for Informatics, I'll say this could happen: It'll TURN the corner by next week. 0.13 to 0.135 is the bottom.

Why?

1) Since the last high of 18.5c on 28 Sep, it's been downhill since 29 Sep. We're coming close to a month this week. How long more can it last? Plus i believe it's quarterly report is around the corner.

2) The cumulative no of shares traded since 29 Sep is about 250m plus shares. These represent the 20% speculative shares I was talking about in my posts below. It can't surpass this figure by alot UNLESS a SSH sells big time. Supply of shares for selling are running out.

It'll go up from here.

 
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27-Oct-2010 17:21     
 
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 Alert Admin 		be careful PL can sold some his share...like healthway...we are in deep bleeding during that time

Gaastra      ( Date: 27-Oct-2010 00:16) Posted:

Great stuff HowLooGiok....

Back to the daily price drops that we are seeing...

PL owns approx 20%, Vincent Tan approx 34% - that's 54%...

Let's assume other "big" shareholders form another 6% - so we could assume that 60% of shares not "under" speculative trading...

Let's further assume that out of the remaining 40%, half are long term investors...so, based on this theory, approx 20% of Informatics' shares are in the hands of the public for the kind of speculative trading we see...my estimate is that 20% is about 250m shares...

So, how long will these 250m shares continue to change hands, artificially pushing the price down? Since mid-August, we've had 3 attempts to shoot past 18.5c, each with 110m plus volumes...

My take is that with the ASSUMED supply of shares for speculative trading being relatively low (20%), just a little spike in demand will drive up the stock price quickly when the time comes...

Of course, another key requirement is that there is nothing wrong with the company, no substantial shareholder selling etc..




HowLooGiok      ( Date: 26-Oct-2010 23:41) Posted:

The average cost is based on my estimate calculation. I calculated his initial 55 390 000 shares (4.4%) based on 0.03 which was the lowest for Inforamtics at one time. The rest of the figures were also based on the lowest share prices for those days he bought in. As such, his average share price may be higher than 0.0814 which I had worked out, but I played it on the safe side by taking this figure as a guideline for myself.
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27-Oct-2010 17:18     
 
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At time u hv to know when to leave the shore and find new oceans.

A very hard lesson for me in the past. I will never forget!!!!! Probably this is part of leaning the rope and be a wiser trader/investor.

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27-Oct-2010 17:07     
 
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noobnoob      ( Date: 27-Oct-2010 15:21) Posted:



Everyday drop abit..... sian man.....

all holding? or cut losses?

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Everyday drop abit..... sian man.....

all holding? or cut losses?
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Great stuff HowLooGiok....

Back to the daily price drops that we are seeing...

PL owns approx 20%, Vincent Tan approx 34% - that's 54%...

Let's assume other "big" shareholders form another 6% - so we could assume that 60% of shares not "under" speculative trading...

Let's further assume that out of the remaining 40%, half are long term investors...so, based on this theory, approx 20% of Informatics' shares are in the hands of the public for the kind of speculative trading we see...my estimate is that 20% is about 250m shares...

So, how long will these 250m shares continue to change hands, artificially pushing the price down? Since mid-August, we've had 3 attempts to shoot past 18.5c, each with 110m plus volumes...

My take is that with the ASSUMED supply of shares for speculative trading being relatively low (20%), just a little spike in demand will drive up the stock price quickly when the time comes...

Of course, another key requirement is that there is nothing wrong with the company, no substantial shareholder selling etc..




HowLooGiok      ( Date: 26-Oct-2010 23:41) Posted:

The average cost is based on my estimate calculation. I calculated his initial 55 390 000 shares (4.4%) based on 0.03 which was the lowest for Inforamtics at one time. The rest of the figures were also based on the lowest share prices for those days he bought in. As such, his average share price may be higher than 0.0814 which I had worked out, but I played it on the safe side by taking this figure as a guideline for myself.



noobnoob      ( Date: 26-Oct-2010 17:20) Posted:

Before the crazy buy up on 22 Jul... he already own 4.4% i think... nt sure how much was paid for the 55mil shares...

did u factor in? or your ave price of 0.08 is based on (19% - 4.4%) from 22 jul to aug this year...



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