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Double Dip ?? - Nouriel Roubini
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Isolator
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08-Sep-2010 14:44
Yells: "STI is hard landing to below 2000..." |
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Those who dont trade maybe telling the true as they are not bias.... Those who trade will usually comment positive to their portfolio.... lol... So who to trust? Just yourself... lol... | ||||
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nickyng
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08-Sep-2010 12:41
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hey!! stock is a MARKET = BUYER AND SELLER !! how can there b only BUYING....and NO SELLING? and vice versa ?!??! there must b opposing camps inorder for TRADINGs to work !! cool it man !! for me i dun care!! BULL mkt i contra !! BEAR mkt i SHORT!! hee.....win both ways! :P |
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alexchia01
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08-Sep-2010 12:18
Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them" |
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Why do you guys listen to an Economist who does not trade the stock market? Nouriel Roubini makes his money by giving lectures. If you want to listen to someone, at least listen to someone who makes his money through the stock market, like Warren Buffett or George Soros.
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niuyear
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08-Sep-2010 11:33
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OBama must keep his by introducing 2nd stimulus package.
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edwinteo
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08-Sep-2010 00:08
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therefore, 2nd stimulus package is required. Once announce, it will chiong again....up up up...
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Richman
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07-Sep-2010 23:35
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Wah! Better sell now and get out of the market and stay in cash liao. Now not the right time to hold. Something like this going to happen, I will end up in paper loss or have to cut loss. Tomorrow I will sell and take back all my money and bet big big when it dip dip. Hahaha.
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Hulumas
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07-Sep-2010 23:29
Yells: "INVEST but not TRADE please!" |
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It may happen sometime next one or two years from today. | ||||
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jchong71
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19-Jul-2010 08:44
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Fasten seatbelts for a double dip
The global slowdown will accelerate in the second half - and policymakers are running out of tools 05:55 AM Jul 19, 2010
The global economy, artificially boosted since the recession of 2008-2009 by massive monetary and fiscal stimulus and financial bailouts, is headed towards a sharp slowdown this year as the effect of these measures wanes.
Worse yet, the fundamental excesses that fuelled the crisis - too much debt and leverage in the private sector (households, banks and other financial institutions, and even much of the corporate sector) - have not been addressed. Private-sector deleveraging has barely begun. Moreover, there is now massive re-leveraging of the public sector in advanced economies, with huge Budget deficits and public-debt accumulation driven by automatic stabilisers, counter-cyclical Keynesian fiscal stimulus, and the immense costs of socialising the financial system's losses. At best, we face a protracted period of anaemic, below-trend growth in advanced economies as deleveraging by households, financial institutions and governments starts to feed through to consumption and investment. At the global level, the countries that spent too much - the United States, the United Kingdom, Spain, Greece and elsewhere - now need to deleverage and are spending, consuming and importing less. But countries that saved too much - China, emerging Asia, Germany and Japan - are not spending more to compensate for the fall in spending by deleveraging countries. Thus, the recovery of global aggregate demand will be weak, pushing global growth much lower. The global slowdown - already evident in second-quarter data for this year - will accelerate in the second half of the year. Fiscal stimulus will disappear as austerity programmes take hold in most countries. Inventory adjustments, which boosted growth for a few quarters, will run their course. The effects of tax policies that stole demand from the future - such as incentives for buyers of cars and homes - will diminish as programmes expire. Labour-market conditions remain weak, with little job creation and a spreading sense of malaise among consumers. Outlook: US mediocre,euro zone worse The likely scenario for advanced economies is a mediocre U-shaped recovery, even if we avoid a W-shaped double dip. In the US, annual growth was already below trend in the first half of this year (2.7 per cent in the first quarter and estimated at a mediocre 2.2 per cent in April-June). Growth is set to slow further, to 1.5 per cent in the second half of this year and into next year. Whatever letter of the alphabet US economic performance ultimately resembles, what is coming will feel like a recession. Mediocre job creation and a further rise in unemployment, larger cyclical Budget deficits, a fresh fall in home prices, larger losses by banks on mortgages, consumer credit, and other loans, and the risk that Congress will adopt protectionist measures against China will see to that. In the euro zone, the outlook is worse. Growth may be close to zero by the end of this year, as fiscal austerity kicks in and stock markets fall. Sharp rises in sovereign, corporate and interbank liquidity spreads will increase the cost of capital and increases in risk aversion, volatility and sovereign risk will undermine business, investor and consumer confidence further. The weakening of the euro will help Europe's external balance but the benefits will be more than offset by the damage to export and growth prospects in the US, China and emerging Asia. Even China is showing signs of a slowdown, owing to the government's attempts to control economic overheating. The slowdown in advanced economies, together with a weaker euro, will further dent Chinese growth, bringing its 11-per-cent-plus growth rate towards 7 per cent by the end of this year. This is bad news for export growth in the rest of Asia and among commodity-rich countries, which increasingly rely on Chinese imports. An important victim will be Japan, where anaemic real income growth is depressing domestic demand and exports to China sustain what little growth there is. Japan also suffers from low potential growth, owing to a lack of structural reforms and weak and ineffective governments (four prime ministers in four years), a large stock of public debt, unfavourable demographic trends and a strong yen that gets stronger during bouts of global risk aversion. Any number of shocks A scenario in which US growth slumps to 1.5 per cent, the euro zone and Japan stagnate and China's growth slows below 8 per cent may not imply a global contraction but, as in the US, it will feel like one. And any additional shock could tip this unstable global economy back into full-fledged recession. The potential sources of such a shock are legion. The euro zone's sovereign-risk problems could worsen, leading to another round of asset-price corrections, global risk aversion, volatility and financial contagion. A vicious cycle of asset-price correction and weaker growth, together with downside surprises that are not currently priced by markets, could lead to further asset-price declines and even weaker growth - a dynamic that drove the global economy into recession in the first place. And one cannot exclude the possibility of an Israeli military strike on Iran in the next 12 months. If that happens, oil prices could rapidly spike and, as in the summer of 2008, trigger a global recession. Finally, policymakers are running out of tools. Additional monetary quantitative easing will make little difference, there is little room for further fiscal stimulus in most advanced economies and the ability to bail out financial institutions that are too big to fail - but also too big to be saved - will be sharply constrained. So, as the optimists' delusional hopes for a rapid V-shaped recovery evaporate, the advanced world will be at best in a long U-shaped recovery, which in some cases - the euro zone and Japan - may be long enough to stretch into an L-shaped near-depression. Avoiding double-dip recession will be difficult. In such a world, recovery in the stronger emerging markets - the great hope for the global economy - will suffer, because no country is an island economically. Indeed, growth in many emerging-market economies - starting with China - is highly dependent on retrenching advanced economies. Fasten your seat belts for a very bumpy ride. Project Syndicate Nouriel Roubini is Chairman of Roubini Global Economics (www.roubini.com), Professor at the Stern School of Business, New York University, and co-author of the book Crisis Economics. This commentary is exclusive to Today in Singapore. |
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