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15-Apr-2010 16:08

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I never apply this one, lousy counter even got GIC involved.

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15-Apr-2010 15:43

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SGX doesnt have same rule as Nasdeq where IPO listed company if traded below US$1 for continuously for 30 days, it may face delisting. If this is so, most of IPO companies all will VANISED!!

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Numbers don't lie: The SGX is a penny stock market

R Sivanithy Senior Correspondent

Mon, Sep 01, 2008
The Business Times

M ARK Twain once wrote that 'there are three kinds of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics'. (It was actually former British prime minister Benjamin Disraeli who coined the phrase but it was Twain who popularised the notion that statistics can be used to tell lies).

True, we've all seen how numbers can be used to sway an argument (or get clients to buy stocks) even when those arguments may have been flawed to begin with. Unfortunately for the Singapore stock market, there's no running away from the numbers.

There are 787 listed entities on the Singapore Exchange (SGX), excluding warrants. Of these, a staggering 658 or 84 per cent trade for less that $1 which puts them in the penny category.

It's a good thing that SGX does not have a rule similar to Nasdaq's, which is that a company whose shares trade below US$1 for 30 consecutive business days faces the threat of delisting (they are given 90 days grace to ensure compliance, though in times of extreme stress, such as 9/11, the rule can be temporarily suspended).

If SGX had a minimum-price continued listing rule, then more than 80 per cent of the Singapore market would vanish.

Think about this - despite all the attempts by SGX and the authorities to elevate the local market into the realm of the extraordinary, only 16 per cent of the local stock market can justifiably claim to be non-penny stocks.

Of course, you'd have to factor in that we're in the midst of a bear market, so perhaps some allowances should be made. However, the picture doesn't get much better even if we lower the penny barrier - if we accept 50 cents as separating penny stocks from non-penny stocks, the proportion of stocks trading for less than 50 cents is still a high 72 per cent.

Finally, if we set the penny hurdle rate at the minimum allowable initial public offer (IPO) price of 20 cents, the percentage of stocks trading for 20 cents or less is still a shockingly high 47 per cent.

Even Mark Twain wouldn't be able to deny that whichever way you cut it, the SGX is a penny stock market.

The next question an interested party might ask is: what of the much-vaunted China segment which was supposed to drive the market to greater heights?

Here too, the figures are disappointing. There are 50 China stocks that form the FTSE ST China index and only four sell for above $1, which means 92 per cent of SGX-listed China stocks are pennies.

The losses among China stocks are mind-boggling and far exceed the losses sustained on their homeland. Cosco Corp and Yangzijiang Shipbuilding for instance, two components of the Straits Times Index, have lost 70 and 80 per cent respectively in 2008 versus about 55 per cent for the mainland China indices (we've assumed that the currencies have remained unchanged).

A ballpark estimate is that the SGX-listed China sector is down at least 80 per cent from their highs, a massive underperformance that only lends weight to the criticism that China companies who choose to list here are mainly - but not entirely - of sub-standard investment grade.

And finally, if STI components have collapsed by so much, why is the STI still down by around 21 per cent for the year?

A few answers are possible. The inclusion of the thinly-traded Jardine companies is one factor - many in the market believe that because the volumes of these stocks are low, the buying support for them is artificial. A second is the resilience shown by the three local banks, SingTel and the conglomerates which have not lost as much ground as the rest of the market.

By logical extension, this implies that the STI is not representative of the broad market, though to debate that point would move us into an area fraught with theoretical and practical difficulties that cannot be sufficiently covered in this column.

Suffice to say that the massive asset deflation the stock market has suffered in the relatively short space of eight months has not been properly captured by many news headlines or market reports. The numbers in this case simply do not lie.

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15-Apr-2010 15:33

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ehh... but ppl shorting today will need to buy back today right ? since its naked short selling.. ?.. :/

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15-Apr-2010 15:20

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SGX should set rule : not to allow shorting on first 2 days of IPO or penalise 2 times more than the normal shorting fine. :)

Hulumas ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 15:12) Posted:

Huh paper loss from IPO price already. Just too bad.

nickyng ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 15:09) Posted:

wow! 1.15 coming !!! :P SHORT AHH ! :D

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Huh paper loss from IPO price already. Just too bad.

nickyng ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 15:09) Posted:

wow! 1.15 coming !!! :P SHORT AHH ! :D

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wow! 1.15 coming !!! :P SHORT AHH ! :D

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15-Apr-2010 12:58

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IF we could buy some vegetation lands in rural areas of china, and call it our own plantation, then we dont need food supply form others. Or, 'IF' we could relook into some areas in chua chu kang or all the 'Kangs' and punggol where they were once a pig farm or vegetable plantation, we will cut down the need to be reliant on others. The future promising job boils down to farming related.

The roof top project for resh vegetable.looks promising but, it takes some years to

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15-Apr-2010 12:47

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I can only said selling at NAV cannot be so wrong lor......Of course, many forumer here pointed out correctly that valuation can be influenced by owner to rate better.

Like Cache is buildings.......very hard to cheat lor. NAV 87 IPO 88......so...good deal lor.

Then we can talk about the prospect........

candle ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 12:36) Posted:

so the analyst is wrong again?

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15-Apr-2010 12:36

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so the analyst is wrong again?

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15-Apr-2010 12:35

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u sold at wat price

commando ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 10:09) Posted:

lousy debut...waste my time applying...kena 2 lots now sell away lose broker's fee...

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15-Apr-2010 12:27

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premium too high ....don't know when will make back the 55cts.......

Andrew ( Date: 10-Apr-2010 23:08) Posted:

At S$1.20, new investor is paying almost 100% premium. There is also drought in PRC, the worst in a century.

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Offering Price per Share                                                                              1.20
NAV per Share as of 30 September 2009, before adjusting for the Offering 0.51
Increase in NAV per Share attributable to the Offering                                 0.14
NAV per Share after the Offering                                                                0.65
Dilution in NAV per Share to new investors                                                 0.55
Dilution in NAV per Share to new investors as a percentage of Offering Price 45.8%

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15-Apr-2010 12:04

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very soon will become less than a dollar !!

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15-Apr-2010 12:03

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Reasonable and acceptable.

niuyear ( Date: 15-Apr-2010 11:58) Posted:

不敢在太岁爷下动土.

Food supply from china to s'pore in future important, unless, 可以自己种。

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不敢在太岁爷下动土.

Food supply from china to s'pore in future important, unless, 可以自己种。

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15-Apr-2010 11:39

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wow!! 1.16 !??!??!?! :P

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15-Apr-2010 11:32

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pity those who applied and got this burger!! 1.17 now!! oh my god !! :)

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lousy debut...waste my time applying...kena 2 lots now sell away lose broker's fee...

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14-Apr-2010 23:00

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More news on China Minxhong Food.

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_88B157C18AE8A329482577050050380E/$file/PressRelease.pdf?openelement

Balloting results.

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_81B99CA87D04A7574825770500500F07/$file/BallotingResults.pdf?openelement

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14-Apr-2010 22:19

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Just sharing my thot: Hope it fly off at 0.18ct or more (Ang Pao for many small retailers / players)

10 to 15% profit or + 0.12ct to + 0.18ct is reasonable for many to STAG. Mid term TP stood at more then 1.60ct

Deals is well received. This counter book order is highly domininated by high quality institutions with GIC holding 16.5%

teeth53 ( Date: 09-Apr-2010 22:29) Posted:

With this few big supporter around, i think it can stay above water, at least for a start. STAG in my own view.

teeth53 ( Date: 07-Apr-2010 19:45) Posted:

http://masnet.mas.gov.sg/opera/sdrprosp.nsf/936bad13609791c948256b3e001ed49f/FB393AF2CEA41977482576FE00286EFB/$File/2(a)%20-%20Prospectus%20dated%207%20April%202010.pdf

Offering (subject to the Over-allotment Option) in respect of 197,344,000 ordinary shares comprising 119,602,000 New Shares and 77,742,000

Vendor Shares as follows:

(i) 9,867,000 Public Offer Shares at S$1.20 for each Public Offer Share by way of a public offer in Singapore; and

(ii) 187,477,000 Placement Shares at S$1.20 for each Placement Share by way of placement.

Co-Lead Manager and Co-Placement Agent (OCBC Bank)
Joint Issue Managers, Joint Underwriters and Joint Lead Managers (J.P.Morgan. Kim Eng Finance and Macquarie)
Sole Global Coordinator and Sole Bookrunner (J.P.Morgan)

Joint Financial Advisers (J.P.Morgan and Kim Eng Finance)

Since 1971
CHINA MINZHONG FOOD
CORPORATION LIMITED
(Incorporated in Singapore on 9 March 2004,
Company Registration No: 200402715N)

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