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jeremyow
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11-Sep-2009 00:56
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Go ahead richtan. As long as it is useful for another thread too, I'm happy to help out..... | ||||
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richtan
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10-Sep-2009 18:42
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Hi jeremyow, Very good analogy, may I take the liberty to copy n paste your this post in Midas thread as it seems very applicable to Midas too.
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AnthonyTan
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10-Sep-2009 16:57
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I strongly believe that Genting SP is a speculative counter.The casino is not open yet but these ppl has started gambling.Some ppl are pushing up prices for you to carry the babies.Rumour of opening before 2010, price go up Getting a gambling licence, price go upThere is no valid reason for the Govt to allow you to build the casino but refuse you a gambling licence. Its amazing to watch Genting SP at this pricing Caveat Emptor |
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automan*
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10-Sep-2009 14:27
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Can't imagine Genting can go so high today. It looks abnormal, BE CAREFUL players!!!!! | ||||
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yongjp
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10-Sep-2009 14:22
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Very good point made. An important part of the pricing of a share depends upon the sustainability of its profits. For example, I remember last year Golden Agri made record earnings due to high oil prices. This is likely to be a one-off event and is unlikely to happen again hence the current px. | ||||
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jeremyow
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10-Sep-2009 14:17
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Have you heard of the story of the hare and the tortoise? The hare runs fast getting many's attention and people support the hare and cheer for it betting that it will emerge the winner because it looks like being confident of doing so. It will be in the limelight for a while with a cheery concensus for it to turn a winner. Little does one knows the tortoise is a slow but steady runner. It is focused and does not lose track of the final finishing point. The tortoise does not matter whether people are supporting it. It just remain focused on completing its task of reaching the finishing point. It has good endurance and focus and is intelligent enough to know also that it is focus and tenacity to keep improving that will determine the winner, not short-term glorious sprint. As such, it just keeps on running never losing its steam or focus. Eventually, the hare tires out after running the first lap at fast pace, and is full of confidence in itself that the tortoise is still far behind and so decides to take a rest. Just when it was taking its confident rest, then catches up the tortoise and eventually the tortoise wins the race. So, what is the morale of the story? Slow and steady does win the race. Consistency in business profitability is better than short-term glorious sprint. A company that steadily and consistently grows its business (not necessarily at high supernormal pace and in the limelight) will eventually emerge the winner. Such a business will keep growing with consistent earnings growth and eventually investors just have to realise its value by bidding up its share price. Will one sell $1 per share for SPH's shares currently? Will one sell $1 per share for Keppel Corp's shares currently? Will one sell $1 per share for Wilmar International's shares currently? If someone is willing to price a consistent business's shares at such low value, I will gladly buy from him. Stability and consistency in earnings growth is long term winner that cannot be ignored (though sometimes prices get mispriced due to trading sentiments).
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automan*
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10-Sep-2009 13:58
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Can't imagine GT can go up so high today & it looks abnormal !!! BE CAREFUL everyone !!! |
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keepnosecrets
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10-Sep-2009 13:44
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The market is like that. If you are happy with the price because it is worth it , you buy. If you hate it because it is overpriced, you sell and even better still borrow the scrips to short it to release the tension. Both sides can manage to suit you. Calm down.
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yongjp
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10-Sep-2009 13:39
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I'll like to hear what the others think as well. For SIA #1. It's a world class brand with a proven track record. #2. The losses incurred are largely due to the overall worldwide sentiments and are of no fault of the company. #3. Its a niche business. For Genting, basically people are banking on the fact that it's a duopoly but personally I feel it's already ridicously overpriced. My 2 cents. Still learning as well |
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ellisee
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10-Sep-2009 13:26
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I hope to be enlightened here. Why are companies such as SIA and Genting, who have reported losses, making big strides in their prices? On the other hand, share prices of some profitable companies are not really advancing much. Still learning as I cannot understand the logic. | ||||
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