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Congratulation to those who still hold shares!
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des_khor
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24-Aug-2009 14:52
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I'm not MFTs so that I can't answer your question.
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cheongwee
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24-Aug-2009 14:50
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till when...hold till when?now to ???
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des_khor
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24-Aug-2009 14:15
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As I mentioned before buy and hold for now will get greatest rewards! | |||||||
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cheongwee
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24-Aug-2009 13:37
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Ok..can u pls share with me wat is the big and small ones??? you means the day u know u got stuck , then u deem it is big???right? what ever causes the crises, that is where they shd take care of.....that is housing.. but housing data improve already...u say...but alot say housing data is fake security...and i read it is true in some aspect.... maybe too much reading can sway our judgement... maybe it is true housing is now improving....let hope it is...so the bull continue for us to make $$$..
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cheongwee
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24-Aug-2009 13:30
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actually i thk, they report their losses end of the year so they can cover their losses better...total sum of all earning for the year...minus whatever losses... but if the losses is too big.,,,,then that is too bad...got to drop thr bomb..
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risktaker
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24-Aug-2009 06:22
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blue chip ? not all blue chip can buy atm at least not now. Blue Chip will go for correction in coming weeks.
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cheongwee
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23-Aug-2009 23:23
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then next leg now...buy with all you can...buy blue chip only and go supa long.. why u say your bank acc cannot last...you means your bank go bankrupt..or you bankrupt yourself by buying penny and mid cap.. i suggest only blues...unlikely to go under..never buy penny...you will be penniless.. only right now they are in play...after that they will be like sleeping beauty and go to sleep for a long time...waiting for another prince bullish to come and kiss them to wake up...
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MsAloevera
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23-Aug-2009 23:15
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Many ppl have the mindset that late sept - oct will have correction /retracement or whatever term u call it, got an urge to plot a graph to verify that saying... market not so cyclical with that precision bah |
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cheongwee
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23-Aug-2009 23:12
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i thk dow 9800 to 10000 ,,,a correction will come..my prediction...but psycho by HS Dent..but i am not blaming him...if it is wrong..it is me who is wrong...i trust and believe him , right??? | |||||||
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MsAloevera
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23-Aug-2009 23:11
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Nice story.. I most likely be able to see 5XXX STI, even 8XXX >_< , whether my bank accounts can live that long, that's another story | |||||||
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cheongwee
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23-Aug-2009 23:08
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I am not saying you shd not work hard,,,no way,,,you shd work as hard as you can... by hard work, u will definitely achieve some degree of success...but the rest still got to depend on affinity with what you are doing....work hard you must!!! |
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cheongwee
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23-Aug-2009 23:04
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WB is lucky, he live a long and healthy life... tonite..there are lot of ppl who cant live to see sti 3XXX..or what ever... he hold 20 to 30 yrs.and mostof them grow...many fold....who dont know dow 20000,,,and sti 5000 in future, but only if we are still ard..than it got meaning... One thing for sure...WB..dont have another 30 yrs of lease to see what he bought today...multi fold.. for me...i am interest in next month..actually is day to day...but if i can see month to month...i am happy.. next month..most likely i am ard...let see .....dow 6547 to now 9505 with no correction is a bit offside...dont you thk so?...anytime now it will have a correction of 20 to 30% i wonder what will cause this to happen....who drop what bomb.....just be ready..to sell fast and cut fast...dont buy and wait for 30 yrs... and what you buy may not be another venture...how many here really bought venture at 30c?? WB got great affininty with the market..everything was smooth for him...the lord of the stock market like him very much......sometimes it is not that you work hard u got it.study FA and TA.....it is your destiny, your fate and your karma.....just like there are alot of hardworking doctor...how many really excel and won Nobel price...or get to the top post...
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cheongwee
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23-Aug-2009 22:43
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i hope Mermaid to cross 1.00 next wk..or shd i call it prediction...but it is my prayer is anything to go by.. and i pray for my QAF wrt..a punt...though it did not cost more than 10% of my vested..this one either win or lose...simple..i never risk 10% on specualtive play..and will alway buy on the way up...very profitable...like SAR and hyfluxwt..sound good..we see next wk..all ready to jump on it...if it soar..of course if the rumour is anything to go by...and of course tiong woon, li heng...last one still 27.5c..bought 26c wk back..if still cannot run ..will sell and put into another counter... no time left...one more month...to end of summer exactly.. |
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23-Aug-2009 20:17
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Warren Buffett Watch's 8 Predictions for '08 - And Beyond
Posted By:Alex Crippen
Topics:Stock Market | Economy (U.S.) | Investment Strategy | Warren Buffett
Companies:Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
Warren Buffett became one of the wealthiest people in the world by making predictions and putting money behind those predictions. Every time he buys a stock or a business or some other investment, he's forecasting the future. Judging by the incredible returns of his holding company Berkshire Hathaway, Buffett and his colleagues are very good at making those predictions. Of course, it helps when you can give your predictions plenty of time to come true. That's one reason Buffett's favorite holding period for investments in "outstanding businesses with outstanding managements" is "forever." After all, "We don't get paid for activity, just for being right. As to how long we'll wait, we'll wait indefinitely." With that in mind, here are Warren Buffett Watch's "Eight for '08" .. and beyond. 1. Recessions can't be avoided forever. In the last few days, Buffett told our Becky Quick that if unemployment picks up significantly, the "dominoes" will fall and the U.S. economy will fall into recession in 2008. He's not sure, however, that unemployment will go up next year. In fact, he's surprised that all the weakness we're seeing in housing hasn't affected the jobs market ... yet. Here's what he is sure about: "It is the nature of capitalism to periodically have recessions. People overshoot." (He told Becky she's young enough to expect to see 6 or 7 or them.) 2. We'll survive future recessions just as we've survived past problems. As Buffett told us in August, "We've got a wonderful economy... There's never been anything like that in the history of the world. We live seven times better than the people did a century ago on average... We've had problems all along. If you look at the last century, we had that Great Depression and World War Two, we had the Cold War, we had the atomic bomb, but the country does well." 3. Recessions will create opportunities. "I made by far the best buys I've ever made in my lifetime in 1974. And that was a time of great pessimism and the oil shock and stagflation and all those sort of things. But stocks were cheap."
4. All stocks won't be cheap. Like Ted Williams waiting for the right pitch, a successful investor waits for the right stock at the right price, and it doesn't happen every day. "What’s nice about investing is you don’t have to swing at pitches. You can watch pitches come in one inch above or one inch below your navel, and you don’t have to swing. No umpire is going to call you out." You get in trouble, Buffett says, when you listen to the crowd chanting "Swing, batter, swing!"
5. The crowd will make mistakes. Buffett cites this piece of advice from his mentor Benjamin Graham: "You’re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You’re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right—and that’s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don’t have to worry about anybody else." 6. Investors will mistakenly think falling stock prices are bad. "If they reduce the price of hamburgers at McDonald's today I feel terrific. Now I don't go back and think, gee, I paid a little more yesterday. I think I'm going to be buying them cheaper today. Anything you're going to be buying in the future, you want to have get cheaper."
7. Good times will prompt bad decisions. In his 2000 Letter to Berkshire shareholders, Buffett compared the crowd that buys big when prices are high to Cinderella at the ball. "They know that overstaying the festivities - that is, continuing to speculate in companies that have gigantic valuations relative to the cash they are likely to generate in the future - will eventually bring on pumpkins and mice. But they nevertheless hate to miss a single minute of what is one helluva party. Therefore, the giddy participants all plan to leave just seconds before midnight. There’s a problem, though: They are dancing in a room in which the clocks have no hands." 8. There will be more dancing at another wild party followed by another painful hangover. Looking back at the Internet bubble, Buffett is quoted as saying, "The world went mad. What we learn from history is that people don’t learn from history." |
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smartrader
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23-Aug-2009 20:14
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Worst Predictions About 2008Just about everybody got wrong-footed by 2008, but some forecasts were spectacularly off the mark. In no particular order, here are 10 of the worst predictions.At the time of the prediction, the Dow Jones industrial average was at 12,300. By late December it was at 8500. 2. AIG (AIG) "could have huge gains in the second quarter." — Bijan Moazami, analyst, Friedman, Billings, Ramsey (FBR), May 9, 2008 AIG wound up losing $5 billion in that quarter and $25 billion in the next. It was taken over in September by the U.S. government, which will spend or lend $150 billion to keep it afloat. 3. "Freddie Mac (FRE) and Fannie Mae (FNM) are fundamentally sound.... I think they are in good shape going forward." — Barney Frank (D-Mass.), House Financial Services Committee Chairman, July 14, 2008 Two months later, the government forced the mortgage giants into conservatorships. 4. "I'm not an economist, but I do believe that we're growing." — President George W. Bush, July 15, 2008 Nope. GDP shrank at a 0.5% annual rate in the July-September quarter. On Dec. 1, the National Bureau of Economic Research declared that a recession had begun in December 2007. 5. "I think Bob Steel's the one guy I trust to turn this bank around, which is why I've told you on weakness to buy Wachovia (WB)." — Jim Cramer, CNBC commentator, Sept. 15, 2008 Two weeks later, Wachovia nearly failed as depositors fled. CEO Steel eventually agreed to a takeover by Wells Fargo (WFC). Wachovia shares lost half their value from Sept. 15 to Dec. 29. 6. "Existing-Home Sales to Trend Up in 2008" — Headline of a National Association of Realtors press release, Dec. 9, 2007 On Dec. 23, 2008, the group said November sales were down 11% from a year earlier in the worst housing slump since the Great Depression. 7. "I think you'll see $150 a barrel [of oil] by the end of the year." — T. Boone Pickens, June 20, 2008 Oil was then around $135 a barrel. By late December it was around $40. 8. "I expect there will be some failures.... I don't anticipate any serious problems of that sort among the large internationally active banks." — Ben Bernanke, Federal Reserve Chairman, Feb. 28, 2008 In September, Washington Mutual (WAMUQ) became the largest financial institution in U.S. history to fail. Citigroup (C) needed an even bigger rescue in November. 9. "In today's regulatory environment, it's virtually impossible to violate rules." — Bernard Madoff, money manager, Oct. 20, 2007 On Dec. 11, Madoff was arrested for allegedly running a Ponzi scheme that may have cost investors $50 billion. 10. "There's growing evidence that parts of the debt markets...are coming back to life." — Peter Coy and Mara Der Hovanesian, BusinessWeek, Oct. 1, 2007 |
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smartrader
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23-Aug-2009 20:12
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Read for entertainment..... Predictions are just that, predictions. Everybody has their own opinion on just about anything. And more importantly, everyone wants to be first with any prediction, so these days, the so called experts, are slushing out one guess after another, everyone contradicting at least two others. When there is a small variable change in the environment, the prediction surprisingly changes! Here are some than didnt make it in 2008 (from FP). I will bet you that the list of predictions that didn’t materialize for 2009 will be the biggest ever! 1 “If [Hillary Clinton] gets a race against John Edwards and Barack Obama, she’s going to be the nominee. Gore is the only threat to her, then. … Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single Democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now.” —William Kristol, Fox News Sunday, Dec. 17, 2006 Weekly Standard editor and New York Times columnist William Kristol was hardly alone in thinking that the Democratic primary was Clinton’s to lose, but it takes a special kind of self-confidence to make a declaration this sweeping more than a year before the first Iowa caucus was held. After Iowa, Kristol lurched to the other extreme, declaring that Clinton would lose New Hampshire and that “There will be no Clinton Restoration.” It’s also worth pointing out that this second wildly premature prediction was made in a Times column titled, “President Mike Huckabee?” The Times is currently rumored to be looking for his replacement. 2 “Peter writes: ‘Should I be worried about Bear Stearns in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?’ No! No! No! Bear Stearns is fine! Do not take your money out. … Bear Stearns is not in trouble. I mean, if anything they’re more likely to be taken over. Don’t move your money from Bear! That’s just being silly! Don’t be silly!” —Jim Cramer, responding to a viewer’s e-mail on CNBC’s Mad Money, March 11, 2008 Hopefully, Peter got a second opinion. Six days after the volatile CNBC host made his emphatic pronouncement, Bear Stearns faced the modern equivalent of an old-fashioned bank run. Amid widespread speculation on Wall Street about the bank’s massive exposure to subprime mortgages, Bear’s shares lost 90 percent of their value and the investment bank was sold for a pittance to JPMorgan Chase, with a last-minute assist from the U.S. Federal Reserve. 3 “[In] reality the risks to maritime flows of oil are far smaller than is commonly assumed. First, tankers are much less vulnerable than conventional wisdom holds. Second, limited regional conflicts would be unlikely to seriously upset traffic, and terrorist attacks against shipping would have even less of an economic effect. Third, only a naval power of the United States’ strength could seriously disrupt oil shipments.” —Dennis Blair and Kenneth Lieberthal, Foreign Affairs, May/June 2007 On Nov. 15, 2008 a group of Somali pirates in inflatable rafts hijacked a Saudi oil tanker carrying 2 million barrels of crude in the Indian Ocean. The daring raid was part of a rash of attacks by Somali pirates, which have primarily occurred in the Gulf of Aden. Pirates operating in the waterway have hijacked more than 50 ships this year, up from only 13 in all of last year, according to the Piracy Reporting Center. The Gulf of Aden, where nearly 4 percent of the world’s oil demand passes every day, was not on the list of strategic “chokepoints” where oil shipments could potentially be disrupted that Blair and Lieberthal included in their essay, “Smooth Sailing: The World’s Shipping Lanes Are Safe.” Hopefully, Blair will show a bit more foresight if, as some expect, he is selected as Barack Obama’s director of national intelligence. 4 “[A]nyone who says we’re in a recession, or heading into one—especially the worst one since the Great Depression—is making up his own private definition of ‘recession.’” —Donald Luskin, The Washington Post, Sept. 14, 2008 The day after Luskin’s op-ed, “Quit Doling Out That Bad-Economy Line,” appeared in the Post, Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy, and the rest is history. Liberal bloggers had long ago dubbed the Trend Macrolytics chief investment officer and informal McCain advisor “the Stupidest Man Alive.” This time, they had some particularly damning evidence. 5 “For all its flaws, an example to others.” —The Economist on Kenya’s presidential election, Dec. 19, 2007 The week before Kenya’s presidential election, the erudite British newsweekly ran an ill-conceived editorial praising the quality of the country’s democracy and predicting it might “set an example” for the rest of the continent. If only. The ensuing election was rife with examples of voter fraud and ballot-stuffing. What followed was a month of rioting and ethnic bloodshed that left more than 800 dead and 200,000 displaced. The carnage ended in a messy power-sharing agreement between President Mwai Kibaki and his challenger Raila Odinga, leaving the country deeply divided and its government delegitimized. 6 “New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg will enter the Presidential race in February, after it becomes clear which nominees will get the nod from the major parties. His multiple billions and organization will impress voters—and stun rivals. He’ll look like the most viable third-party candidate since Teddy Roosevelt. But Bloomberg will come up short, as he comes in for withering attacks from both Democrats and Republicans. He and Clinton will split more than 50% of the votes, but Arizona’s maverick senator, John McCain, will end up the country’s next President.” –BusinessWeek, Jan. 2, 2008 No part of this prediction from BusinessWeek’s “Ten Likely Events in 2008” turned out to be even remotely true. After weeks of hints and press leaks, Bloomberg declared he would stay out of the race, saying that Barack Obama and John McCain showed signs of displaying the “independent leadership” needed to govern effectively. After overturning New York’s term-limits law, Bloomberg seems likely to run for a third term as mayor instead. 7 “There is a real possibility of creating destructive theoretical anomalies such as miniature black holes, strangelets and deSitter space transitions. These events have the potential to fundamentally alter matter and destroy our planet.” —Walter Wagner, LHCDefense.org Scientist Walter Wagner, the driving force behind Citizens Against the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), is making his bid to be the 21st century’s version of Chicken Little for his opposition to the world’s largest particle accelerator. Warning that the experiment might end humanity as we know it, he filed a lawsuit in Hawaii’s U.S. District Court against the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), which built the LHC, demanding that researchers not turn the machine on until it was proved safe. The LHC was turned on in September, and it appears that we are still here. 8 “The possibility of $150-$200 per barrel seems increasingly likely over the next six-24 months.” —Arjun Murti, Goldman Sachs oil analyst, in a May 5, 2008, report The vaunted predictive powers of Murti, dubbed the “oracle of oil” in a glowing New York Times profile, failed him this time. Oil prices peaked in July at about $147 a barrel before beginning a long decline. Thanks to a decrease in demand because of the global recession, prices are now nearing the $40 mark, and some experts even see $25 as a possibility next year. 9 “It starts with the taking over of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which has already happened. It goes on to the destruction of the Georgian armed forces, which is now happening. The third [development] will probably be the replacement of the elected government, which is pro-Western, with a puppet government, which will probably follow in a week or two.” —Charles Krauthammer, Fox News, Aug. 11, 2008 Krauthammer immediately followed this inaccurate forecast (Russia eventually agreed to a cease-fire and pulled out its troops several weeks later, leaving Mikheil Saakashvili’s government in place) by predicting that Ukraine would be next on Russia’s hit list and suggesting that the United States station troops there. As for Saakashvili, his approval rating was at 76 percent in September. 10 “I believe the banking system has been stabilized. No one is asking themselves anymore, is there some major institution that might fail and that we would not be able to do anything about it.” —Henry Paulson on National Public Radio, Nov. 13, 2008 The U.S. Treasury secretary entered November with guns blazing. After much hemming and hawing before Congress a month earlier, he came out with what he called his “bazooka” —a $700 billion mandate to scoop up bad assets from troubled banks. By mid-November, he had already discharged $300 billion in munitions, albeit mostly via the kind of direct equity stakes he had rejected earlier. Unfortunately for Paulson, shortly after his vote of confidence, Citigroup’s stock price plunged 75 percent in one week, closing below $5 for the first time in 14 years. |
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ronleech
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23-Aug-2009 19:43
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Well, if he got all the small details right and the major wrong, then his prediction is still a failure...just my point of view thot....
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freeme
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23-Aug-2009 18:57
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Its good to see dow moving higher, but STI and HSI had been trading within predicted range unless they break out of 2730 and 21250 respectively. |
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Eagles
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23-Aug-2009 18:00
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Ride on the wave for now. Dont underestimate this bull run triggered by a potent coctail of good 2Q results, global bank recovery, Europe recovery and USA recovery with record home sales. Not really a boom bull run, but should be a convincing doom-recovery bull run. |
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Integrity
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23-Aug-2009 17:42
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Somehow or rather, i think Harry Dent forcasted DOW at 3800 is ridiculous but i will not bet against his prediction. Even if it drop to somewhere between 5000-6000, i think the whole world will be in chaos. Staying at the sideline is still the safest thing to do, i had just liquidate my stock last week when the market is at it's peak. Honestly, I hate to see if the economy is going down, life ahead will be extremely tough. Thanks for reading. |
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