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If I had $100K for pennies long term

chris168
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13-Aug-2009 22:02

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Wrong attachment. Refering to Pastime's story, actually.

Many thanks to lots of you. I find some informations very useful.

chris168 ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 21:47) Posted:

Always enjoy a good story. More, more!!

Mixed opinions are good. Different strategy, various approach. To each that suits and comfortable with.

keepnosecrets ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 16:08) Posted:

The crux of the question can be summarized thus:

She got 100K, wants to buy 5 counters in the pennies range. Depending on what is the true meaning of "penny stock", but let us say the $100K for investment is for stocks ranging from 1 cent to below $1.00.

Since the investment is 5 years, I think you have to look at pennies that have huge growth potential since you cannot lose at all. So I recommend this way:

$20K for $0.005 to $0.015 one counter. Make sure that the stock net asset backing is $0.01 or higher. This will ensure a value investment.

$20K for $0.20 to $0.50 Buy 2 counters. Same criterion as above, make sure its asset backing above your price.

$20K for $0.60 to $0.99 Buy one counter, same criterion as above.

$20K for $1.45 cents stock of one counter, same as above

Total of $100K for a variety of stocks. I am not asking you to invest in Blue chips at all because as some of the forumers have explained that some blues if picked wrongly can cause your portfolio to go haywire.

Many of the opinions expressed by forumers here are worth considering. MYOD after careful study of the stocks you are putting money in for long term.

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chris168
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13-Aug-2009 21:47

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Always enjoy a good story. More, more!!

Mixed opinions are good. Different strategy, various approach. To each that suits and comfortable with.

keepnosecrets ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 16:08) Posted:

The crux of the question can be summarized thus:

Since the investment is 5 years, I think you have to look at pennies that have huge growth potential since you cannot lose at all. So I recommend this way:

$20K for $0.005 to $0.015 one counter. Make sure that the stock net asset backing is $0.01 or higher. This will ensure a value investment.

$20K for $0.20 to $0.50 Buy 2 counters. Same criterion as above, make sure its asset backing above your price.

$20K for $0.60 to $0.99 Buy one counter, same criterion as above.

$20K for $1.45 cents stock of one counter, same as above

Many of the opinions expressed by forumers here are worth considering. MYOD after careful study of the stocks you are putting money in for long term.

Laulan ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 10:38) Posted:

If I want to retire comfortably in 5 years time and able to enjoy touring all over the world, now with $100K set aside for Penny Stocks, which 5 counters are the best to pick so that money will be increased then at least twice? Five counters each 20K without fear of losing much capital and there is every chance for appreciation twice the amount. Please note I cannot lose the capital at all. At best return me $100K with interests. The question was posed to me by a friend's aunty and I am scratching my head to answer them. I am sure you know the answer!!!

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13-Aug-2009 21:16

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If you can really put aside 100K for 5yrs, consider Asiatic. ..my favourite stock. Buy a million of Asiatic shares and do not look at it for the next 3-5yrs. Every year, you will get some dividends. Your target is on the low side. In case you think this is a joke, rest assured that I am puting my money where my mouth is (ie. i am vested with a million shares). In terms of risk, there will always be. High risk but high return.

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richtan
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13-Aug-2009 16:19

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Wow!!, pastime, indeed very interesting pastime story.

Plse carry on the story, or else very sleepy

pasttime ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 15:39) Posted:

afternoon very hot. time to tell some pasttime story.

there is this jungle. there were animals. the lions, the elephants, the zebras, the buaya and there were also rats.

the elephants are the big steady ones. they ate as they like and drinka nd swim the swam as they pleases. but they were mostly peaceful just letting another day past by.

the zebras were vegetarian just trying to make a living by eating grass all day long. and all day long they ate grass. zebras also like to go to the water edge for a drink. and a sip and a sip and it taste so good.

the rats were the under class. they always look for left over food and they eat anything that they can find.

the buaya were peaceful being. they just need to eat a sheep or a rat once a time to keep alive. all in they were peaceful. buaya do not go out to quarrel with the lion or the elephants.

ah go for a cup of coffee first. to be continue.....

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13-Aug-2009 16:16

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Just now, you should have bought WILMAR at S$6.50 and sold off its peak of S$6.96.

It was so S L O W & S T E A D Y moving slowly in each direction one at a time.

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The crux of the question can be summarized thus:

Since the investment is 5 years, I think you have to look at pennies that have huge growth potential since you cannot lose at all. So I recommend this way:

$20K for $0.005 to $0.015 one counter. Make sure that the stock net asset backing is $0.01 or higher. This will ensure a value investment.

$20K for $0.20 to $0.50 Buy 2 counters. Same criterion as above, make sure its asset backing above your price.

$20K for $0.60 to $0.99 Buy one counter, same criterion as above.

$20K for $1.45 cents stock of one counter, same as above

Many of the opinions expressed by forumers here are worth considering. MYOD after careful study of the stocks you are putting money in for long term.

Laulan ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 10:38) Posted:

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13-Aug-2009 16:02

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Should be > 1 millions for PENNY by then you will be expected upgraded to Billionaire in the near future!

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:34) Posted:

Blue Chips also can become BBC... just see thier previous high... whoever bought 30/40% from BBC height also can't sleep.

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13-Aug-2009 15:39

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13-Aug-2009 14:43

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yes, sorry, u r right kepland not longer blues chip, but it is as good as ,

and i am talking long term of 5 yrs and abv...but as far as i can see and read abt it, it sound scary...

i believe u read abt comm RE, Prime , ARM, ....well , if this come abt property and reit got lot more to fall...

i read something like comm RE is worth some 1.7T.in US.and some 350 b..late summer due.2009.and if i have not read wrong , some 65% are not qualify for refinancing...

and early to mid 2010..some ARM,and more Prime is up..

this is no small matter, if this crack, Obama and Big Ben will be outwited...they are 1.3 T todate feficit..

do you thk they can still bail out all,,,now not only fianacial....comm...prime...ARM..

dont dies also cannot...

but one thing we must bear in mind is that, we must not believe everything we read...we must do research..dyodd...

we must ask how authentic and reliable the source are, are the fact and figure correct...but these are hard, we got no means..

but i know HS Dent...he is quite chun,,,in fact my dow of 9800..and oil 60 by june was his call i repect here...

so you thk cheongwee are smart, right...wrong...HS Dent is...read him...he is now calling a dow low of 3800 to 5000...he got me worry...he is calling commofdity ti head higher into early 2010...look like he is right again...oil is heading up...

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 13:30) Posted:

KLand no longer blue... think of Capmall too... now my hand got 50k spare cash... what is your view ?

cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 13:14) Posted:

i thk ard a dollar is gd buy, i take it your long is 5yrs...i see no problem, u be happy man...jmho

with this sucker rally, i see heading for 2 if the rally last till end summer..(end sept)

but i see a new low..that may not come abt,half sure only..but i dont see it at below 60c...

if that dow 3800 to 5000 do come, buy with hand over fist...buy capitaland, keppeland, noble, olam..buy just blues..

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wongmx6
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13-Aug-2009 14:10

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Hi JeremyOw,

Let's say 50K dump into Reits, How are you going to allocate the fund?

Kindly please share.

jeremyow ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:40) Posted:

I suggest going for more stable yielding investments such as Shipping Trusts or REITs which some good ones still provide good annual distribution yield (~10%) at current prices. This is a comfortable yield which will provide ~$10k yearly passive income based on a $100k capital. This $10k can be fully spent or reinvested for compounding the investment. By 10 years, one would have recover back an equivalent of the initial capital sum from collecting distributions. If all goes well, one can expect around the same yearly yield of $10k (assuming without reinvesting the distributions) continuously (though there is nothing guaranteed in this world).

This is much safer than investing capital into penny stocks which may result in gains as well as equal chance of loss of capital. For a retiree, capital preservation should be priority over investment gains. If all goes well, one can expect around the same yearly yield of $10k (assuming without reinvesting the distributions) continuously (though there is nothing guaranteed in this world).

Please also note that not all Shipping Trusts or REITs are good investments. Please do your own homework to find out good ones to invest in.

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13-Aug-2009 13:30

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KLand no longer blue... think of Capmall too... now my hand got 50k spare cash... what is your view ?

cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 13:14) Posted:

i thk ard a dollar is gd buy, i take it your long is 5yrs...i see no problem, u be happy man...jmho

with this sucker rally, i see heading for 2 if the rally last till end summer..(end sept)

but i see a new low..that may not come abt,half sure only..but i dont see it at below 60c...

if that dow 3800 to 5000 do come, buy with hand over fist...buy capitaland, keppeland, noble, olam..buy just blues..

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 13:00) Posted:

Everyone got own personal view, we can discuss anything as long no personal attack.

I'm aim Cosco for long... what is your view?

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cheongwee
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13-Aug-2009 13:21

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Today STI is 2600.. we will see STI 5000..in the near future...if you buy nw, even if a new low do come, just buy more...just sail with it and ride down then up with it...you will arrive a very happy man at STI 5000...i can assure you,,..

i am refering to blues...sorry not penny..

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13-Aug-2009 13:14

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i thk ard a dollar is gd buy, i take it your long is 5yrs...i see no problem, u be happy man...jmho

with this sucker rally, i see heading for 2 if the rally last till end summer..(end sept)

but i see a new low..that may not come abt,half sure only..but i dont see it at below 60c...

if that dow 3800 to 5000 do come, buy with hand over fist...buy capitaland, keppeland, noble, olam..buy just blues..

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 13:00) Posted:

Everyone got own personal view, we can discuss anything as long no personal attack.

I'm aim Cosco for long... what is your view?

cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:57) Posted:

nice taliking with all, thanks for posting, hope i did not offence any..

thanks pls do post offence,

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13-Aug-2009 13:00

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Everyone got own personal view, we can discuss anything as long no personal attack.

I'm aim Cosco for long... what is your view?

cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:57) Posted:

nice taliking with all, thanks for posting, hope i did not offence any..

thanks pls do post offence,

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cheongwee
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13-Aug-2009 12:57

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nice taliking with all, thanks for posting, hope i did not offence any..

thanks pls do post offence,

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13-Aug-2009 12:54

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There are quite a number of acorns tat grown into great oaks, eg venture, etc, etc.

richtan ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:52) Posted:

Agree with u, likewise, "From little acorns, can also grow into great oaks".

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:34) Posted:

Blue Chips also can become BBC... just see thier previous high... whoever bought 30/40% from BBC height also can't sleep.

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13-Aug-2009 12:54

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you have gone over board, the guy who post, is toking abt current, what he can buy with 100k current...not at 3, that is pass, but at today of 1.2x...crises low...so no problem..

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:46) Posted:

Yes, I do agreed with you.

What about Blue Chips like Cosco and Nol??fall from $8 all the way to trough,if buy at $3/4 level also can't sleep....

cheongwee ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:43) Posted:

Ok, let say you buy DBS at 22...at sti high of 3900...can you pls tell me what will the px of DBS, if u see sti 5000...

we will see sti 5000 right?, a matter of time..so can i not say the px of DBS will definitely higher than 22....i thk it shd be 30!!!

but for penny, if the crises get worse, they will disappear from your monitor...

so which one can sleep better???DBS or penny...just like celestial, and ferro...thought to be solid penny...many many ppl cannot sleep, and have gone mad..

never never invest in penny, you can play them for awhile in this sucker rally...

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13-Aug-2009 12:52

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Agree with u, likewise, "From little acorns, can also grow into great oaks".

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:34) Posted:

Blue Chips also can become BBC... just see thier previous high... whoever bought 30/40% from BBC height also can't sleep.

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13-Aug-2009 12:51

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A lot of if(s).

If I have paid off my house

If I have no more liabilities

If I have already invested in blue chips

If I have steady incomes for my daily expenses

If I have some money for contingencies

If I can afford to lose the 100K without losing sleep

then throw in the 100K on pennies hehehe

but of course, not blindly throw, still need to do your homework on which pennies...

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13-Aug-2009 12:46

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we know even big guy do collapse,and sure got risk, but compare to small guy...it have better chances of surviving the crises, ..the risk is less...very less..

des_khor ( Date: 13-Aug-2009 12:39) Posted:

Pennies or Blue Chips both also got risk,Lehman Brother also can packed and go back to China.

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