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Andrew
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13-May-2009 23:49
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WOW.....no one reply to you ? Are you referring to the AGM and SGM ??? If yes, well......all companies, societies whether private or public need to conduct an AGM every year. The purpose are : a) To re-elect directors whose term are up. b) Approve directors fee......a token of appreciation for the wayang they do for the last 1 year. They woke up recently due to the S-stock fiasco........ c) Approve dividends d) Reappoint auditor. e) To empower the directors to print more shares which usually sell at half of the last traded price.(recent trend). Usually harmless unless : e) They tried a sack an indpendent director like kian ho did recently.....and worst, without a good reason. f) Change auditor without reasons. g) Or tried to sell something.........
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yipyip
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13-May-2009 23:16
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1Q Ended Mar09 Profit attributable to shareholders RMB$56mln vs Mar08 -50.9% http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_C7A2856CCB6675C3482575B4007B3813/$file/CHX_1Q09_Result_13May09.PDF?openelement |
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clgui2002
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06-Apr-2009 21:47
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Can anyone tell me the news release from China HongXing on 3rd April is good or bad news? I try so hard to understand but catch no ball. The link as below. http://info.sgx.com/webcorannc.nsf/0357d11048060bb84825735f0028e25b/addab9b42de0fa404825758d000a9a9e?OpenDocument |
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richtan
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06-Apr-2009 14:49
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Good news for s-chips. NOMURA: 1Q09 V-shaped recovery in China http://www.nextinsight.com.sg/content/view/890/60/ |
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richtan
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06-Apr-2009 09:18
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Yippeeee!!!!!! CHHX now broke 12 ct. More to come, the party has just begin. Cheongggggggg Ahhhhhhh!!!!!. Those who heed my call, start make $$$$$
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richtan
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03-Apr-2009 17:16
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CHHX is forming a very nice upward slope with most up days on high volume, I think should break 12 ct on Mon
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richtan
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03-Apr-2009 02:09
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CHHX turn to cheongggggg ahhhh!!!!!. Every dog has its day, every cloud has its silver lining.
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richtan
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02-Apr-2009 11:06
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CHHX looks like forming a flag/pennant bullish formation, so seems good upside potential. | |||||||
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derricktan
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30-Mar-2009 14:12
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I concurs with Richtan...I basely my entry.exit on TA.never listen to targeted price by analyst. But I do have an understanding of the bigger market sentiment to know better my probabaility of winning. Following analysts reportings is more like participating (whihc mean u are one of the herds) rather than anticipating. | |||||||
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E-war
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30-Mar-2009 13:10
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Thanks for both your contributions. It's hard to decide who's right but coupled with this being a China stock and the negative audits on so many of the S-chips underway. I'm more inclined with blackstreams, I'll probably let go of whatever holdings in the stock.
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richtan
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29-Mar-2009 18:45
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Frankly speaking, I'm not really bothered with all this FA as I am a believer of TA as a picture tells a thousand words, all sentiments, greed, fear, FA results in the share price action which shows up in the charts, thus I trade based on chart analysis & ignore all these tgt price & do not like to be a MFT.
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blackstreams
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29-Mar-2009 18:17
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I happen to agree with u on the reliability of analysts. A recent
article on either Forbes or CMBC contended that over a protracted
length of 30 years, analysts got 70% of their
recommendations wrong. In
this case, the analyst Pauline raised a few pertinent points.I
personally see more downside potential than upside. Let me explain. Downside The
money IS there in the banks which is important. This raises the
question raised in the BT article u quoted - there is a huge pile of
cash but not only is there no attempt to pay dividends, there is not
the slightest inkling to have share buybacks to prop up prices.Why?
I can only surmise they are worried. It was pointed out in another
analysis in Feb that 60% of their standing orders are expiring in May.
It means that they are worried about the amount of orders they can
regenerate now that sales volumes are down and inventories are
high.Like u say, they have to be prudent to conserve cash. Yet, rise in
the demand of apparels is offset by drop in shoewear demand. Where are
the profits going to come from? It'll be a constant drain on these
reserves. u also missed out on their policy of advancing inventories to distributers. This is dangerous as it is their policy to takeover the store in the event the retailers are unable to repay debts. We dont know how good they really are at direct sales yet, compared to these retailers. As such, I accepted Pauline's RMB958m capital cost at face value and factored it in as a possible downside pressure. Upside They're having a mtg in April to sort out their PR disaster when they didnt provide dividends but didnt give a thorough explanation of why they didnt do so. If they agree to both provide dvidends and buy back shares, is this truly good for the company? I agree with u on the effectiveness of using moving averages to gauge sentiment altho I prefer the 126day ma myself. Conclusion If they declare dividends, there may be a temporary upside altho it seems to have hit a resistance at 0.11. I'm inclined to believe there's more downward pressure than upside. In fact, if they do the popular thing and allot money for dividend or share buyback, it'll deplete their cash reserves further. It would ironically be more harmful than good. Cheers.
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richtan
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29-Mar-2009 00:08
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On wat basis did they "estimate that such working capital needs could potentially amount to RMB 958m", remember it is just their presumption just as they say "estimate", it could also be wrong. Also, look at the whole mkt, how many stocks are trading at their net cash per share. Hence, never believe such thing as tgt price.
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richtan
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28-Mar-2009 23:52
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Oh yah, tell me (1) which biz is not "facing mounting pressure in a difficult operating environment" in curent extraordinary financial tsunami, turmoil, crisis, one of the most severe crisis since the great depression, (2)Is it not a blessing that "the management is being prudent to set aside hefty working capital needs, preserving their cashflow" (3) Given, current mkt conditions, do u expect the trade fair to generate +nn% yoy, be realistic man!! (4) ). Is it also not a blessing that "Total orders received for 9M09 have grown by approximately 9% yoy" in current mkt condition. (5) Does it matter tat "Rising sales volumes of apparels (+12%) were insufficient to offset a 19% volume decline for sports footwear", the bottomline is net profit, who cares if the company generates net profit even though the rising volumes of apparels (+12%) were insufficient to offset the 19% volume decline for sports footwear. (6)...blah.. blah...blah... it boils down to whether u choose to view a cup as half emty or half full Finally, remember, mkts are driven by human sentiments, emotions, greed, fear, thus the beauty of TA.
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richtan
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28-Mar-2009 23:23
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Do u trust such fickle-minded analysis, one moment tgt price 23 ct, the next moment such drastic dropping of tgt price to 6 ct, wat next????... later on revise again the tgt price, maybe 50 ct, hahahahahaha!!!!!!. If the initial prediction of 23 cts is a failure, I beg not to trust the revised fortune telling. I never believe in such thing as target price as it is akin to shooting a live target, remember, mkt conditions keep changing. I just read it like novels & occasional post for general info but dun read into it too much but rather trust my own TA analysis. To make money, there is no shortcut & follow blindly analist tgt price, "they will bring u to holland", u have to learn to do own TA, set stop-loss & money management as even own TA never 100% right. In any case, it is general knowledge that majority of analist are never right in their tgt price thus the need for frequent adjustment, u think they are god???, no they are not but just purely crystal ball gazing based on their perception of all the info they had. To me, they are just Market Fortune Teller. Trust me, give the same set of info to 7 analist & u will have many diverse & different calls, just like asking 7 blind man to describe an elephant. Show me an analist who stick unwaveringly to their tgt price & more than 50 % of the time are right in thier tgt & I will thank you & stick to this analist like a leech & treat him/her as my "money-god". With the mkt so volatile, nobody can tell for sure wat will happen tomoro, let alone, trying to predict tgt price, always remember "Man propose, GOD dispose"
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blackstreams
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28-Mar-2009 11:13
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Migt be worth noting that for every one bullish about this stock and the recent Feb orders, there's another bearish about it. I happen to subscribe to this view. 1) China Hongxing– Company Update Previous Day Closing price: $0.105 Target price: $0.08 (reduced from $0.23) Recommendation: Sell (reduced from Buy) Rising earnings vulnerability Following the recent luncheon with China Hongxing, we got a sense that the business is facing mounting pressure in a difficult operating environment. The IR addressed key concerns with regards to the huge idling cash pile, stressing that the management is being prudent to set aside hefty working capital needs. As a form of assurance, she presented the bank statements issued by HSBC and China Construction Bank. Feb trade fair sparks the beginning of earnings downtrend The group’s latest trade fair in February garnered RMB 800m worth of orders (-20% yoy). Total orders received for 9M09 have grown by approximately 9% yoy. Rising sales volumes of apparels (+12%) were insufficient to offset a 19% volume decline for sports footwear. The ASPs have also fallen due to the swift towards low-pricing items. Fast and furious trend reversal Despite a 20% same-store-sales growth in Jan 09, the combined same-store-sales for Jan and Feb were a mere 5-6%, suggesting that Feb’s same-store-sales growth was already in the red. Declining same-store-sales undermine operating efficiencies and will lead to rapid cash depletion. Besides, the group will likely continue its product discount program which will erode its gross margins. Orders delivery will also be delayed as a form of inventory control. This will further dampen topline. Cash pile soon to be depleted Huge working capital will deplete the excess cash rapidly. Dwindling demand from mass market due to rising job losses could stretch its inventory days by 2 to 3 months. After which worsen credit terms will follow. CHHS also do not rule out rising difficulties in repayment from distributors and provisions will have to be made. We estimate that such working capital needs could potentially amount to RMB 958m. This will deplete its net cash by 49%, reducing its net cash per share to 8 cents. Dodge this shoe if you have a weak heart We have lowered our earnings estimates for FY09/10 by 16-21% to reflect topline weakness. The beginning of earnings deterioration coupled with overhang from the conversion of the remaining RCPS could impede any potential re-rating. Although the group is considering paying dividends, we doubt it will be enticing given the huge working capital needs. We are downgrading the stock to a Sell and revised our new target price to 8 cents (peg to the net cash per share after adjustment for potential working capital needs). |
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richtan
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27-Mar-2009 12:49
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It is unlikely to drop to 0.06, also read this post below by: edwinders ( Date: 16-Mar-2009 10:32) Posted:
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richtan
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27-Mar-2009 12:46
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Chartwise, it does not seems it will drop to 0.06 as it is now supported by 8sma & in uptrend now. But dyodd as I maybe right & also may be wrong as TA is never 100% right. Not all S-shares are rotten apples, but the mkt now paints all s-shares with the same "fear" brush, so hope CHHX isn't rotten. If it can withstand this recent onslaught & pass the mark & when the ill-wind blows over, then CHHX will soar. Also read this article "Stimulus works for Chinese, IMF to emulate for emerging economies" to see why this counter is a real laggard due for upward bull run soon:
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Hulumas
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27-Mar-2009 09:59
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Could we expect the price at Sgd. 0.06 then, and what shall we do? | |||||||
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richtan
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27-Mar-2009 09:53
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To judge by just looking at China Hongxing Sport latest price chart, people would assumed that this company has suffered big loss from their business or just issued a profit warning. Multiple support lines have just broken with huge transaction volume, at 18 cents, 15.5 cents and 11.5 cents as shown below. In actual fact, the announced result on 17 February 2009 is within expectation if not outstanding. At least they has the qualification to announce the result under the caption of : CHINA HONGXING RECORDS SOLID REVENUE AND PROFIT GROWTH FOR FY2008. This is because for the full year of 2008, revenue surged 41.2 per cent to 2.89 billion yuan and net profit climbed 7.7 per cent to 448.5 million yuan. The actual problem is on 4th quarter 2008 which sees higher costs and a dip in profit margin thus pushed net earnings down 29.8 per cent. Worst still, they did not declare final dividend despite strong cash position. If this is not enough, there is information regarding the outstanding amount of advances to distributors amounting to RMB 1,155.5 million. This is not a small amount in comparison to their cash position of RMB 1,981.7 million. CHS’s response to SGX queries is here. CHS has responded to Business Times article (25 Feb 09, page 5) titled “Talk of accounting issues, margin calls hurts S-chips”. In short, CHS intend to “assure the financial community that the Board and management team conducts itself with the highest standards of corporate governance and transparency”. However, I found that another more ‘damaging’ article on Business Times is titled: “Is the cash really there?” The name of CHS is not mentioned, but some S-chip is mentioned. Some may find CHS fit into the category in focus: Sitting on a huge pile of cash, but there's still no sign of dividends. The article basically raises the question: 'Is the cash really really there?' The Satyam Syndrome can be deadly if not treated early!' |
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