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cskoh1008
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01-Mar-2009 00:12

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Alert Admin but what causes the surge in trading vol right now? UIC and capitaland, which is the better bet. (Iam new in stock, btw)

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TradeChancellor
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28-Feb-2009 23:49

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Alert Admin The 2 bigboys having majority stake is wee cho yaw and go kong wei, together combined about 70%, with Morgan stanley's ~12%, thats about 82% for just 3 top shareholders... so, not much free float for manipulation. Also, NAV is $2.34, current trading price is at a discount of near 50% NAV. Believe can hold it for longer term until property cycle picks up again. But not very sure if should wait if the price will drop further.

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cskoh1008
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28-Feb-2009 23:26

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Alert Admin Anyone can shed some lights on this counter. Worth investing? And is the fundamental strong?

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Luostock
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16-Feb-2009 21:55

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1. Date of notice to issuer * 16-02-2009

2. Name of Director * John Gokongwei, Jr.

3.	Please tick one or more appropriate box(es): *
	Notice of a Director's (including a director who is a substantial shareholder) Interest and Change in Interest. [Please complete Part II and IV]

>> PART II

1. Date of change of Interest 13-02-2009

2. Name of Registered Holder DBS Vickers Securities (Singapore) Pte Ltd

3. Circumstance(s) giving rise to the interest or change in interest Open Market Purchase

# Please specify details

4. Information relating to shares held in the name of the Registered Holder

No. of Shares held before the change	135,437,000
As a percentage of issued share capital	9.832 %

No. of Shares which are subject of this notice	200,000
As a percentage of issued share capital	0.015 %

Amount of consideration (excluding brokerage and stamp duties) per share paid or received 1.21

No. of Shares held after the change	135,637,000
As a percentage of issued share capital	9.847 %

No. of shares held before the change	0	484,647,000
As a percentage of issued share capital	0 %	35.183 %
No. of shares held after the change	0	484,847,000
As a percentage of issued share capital	0 %	35.198 %

Footnotes

The above percentages are computed based on UIC’s issued shares of 1,377,481,220 as at 13 February 2009.

The 484,847,000 UIC shares (held after the change) are registered in the name of CIMB-GK Securities Pte Ltd (5,211,000), United Overseas Bank Limited (53,999,000), Overseas Chinese Banking Corporation Ltd (290,000,000) and DBS Vickers Securities (Singapore) Pte Ltd (135,637,000)

By virtue of Section 7 of the Companies Act:

a) JG Summit Philippines Limited, which is the holding company of Telegraph Developments Limited, is deemed to have an interest in the shares in which Telegraph Developments Limited has an interest in;
b) JG Summit Holdings, Inc., which is the holding company of JG Summit Philippines Limited, is deemed to have an interest in the shares in which JG Summit Philippines Limited has an interest in; and
c) Mr John Gokongwei, Jr. is deemed to have an interest in the shares which JG Summit Holdings, Inc. has an interest in, by virtue of Mr John Gokongwei, Jr.’s interest of not less than 20% of the voting shares in JG Summit Holdings, Inc.

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Luostock
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16-Feb-2009 21:40

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1. Date of change of Interest 12-02-2009

2. The change in the percentage level From 11.995 % To 10.939 %

3. Circumstance(s) giving rise to the interest or change in interest # Others

# Please specify details

a) Discretionary mandates positions sold through open market transactions by Morgan Stanley Investment Management Company.

b) The fall in percentage level is the result of termination of one of the discretionary mandates managed by Morgan Stanley Investment Management Company.

A statement of whether the change in the percentage level is the result of a transaction or a series of transactions:

The change in the percentage level is the result of a series of transactions from 31/10/2008 through 12/02/2009.

No. of shares held before the change	0	165,228,005
As a percentage of issued share capital	0 %	11.995 %
No. of shares held after the change	0	150,680,005
As a percentage of issued share capital	0 %	10.939 %

Footnotes

The percentage issued share capital is calculated based on 1,377,481,220 UIC shares in issue.

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derekchong
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19-Jan-2009 07:10

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Alert Admin In Scenorio 3, the counter offer is by MS.The average price GKW paid is very much less than $2.85.

Let said, GKW sold UIC to MS at $1.50 on condition and the counter offer by MS at $1.50.

WCY will has to raise the offer. Strategicaaly it is good for MS and GKW.

In stock mkt nothing is sure and nothing is impossible.

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shplayer
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18-Jan-2009 23:06

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Scenerio 2 ....highly unlikey.....price too low ....MS wont sell.

Scenerio 3.....very, very highly unlikely.......lowest price GKW can counter offer is 2.85...the highest price he paid for UIC in past 6 mths. Cost to him if he counters will be about $ 3 bil...see BT article in other thread.

Scenerio 1......highly probable......price too low. As stated earlier..this GO by WCY is not serious.......shareholders will not accept GO. Current price of 1.25.......common sense dictates which way shareholders who want to liquidate will go.

No brainer....

derekchong ( Date: 18-Jan-2009 17:59) Posted:

3 possible scenario.

Scenario 1

WCY offer failed and can only buy 1% of UIC share in any 6 month period.

Scenario 2

Morgan Stanley took the offer and WCY shares increased to 42 %

GKW now the second largest shareholder with 36 %

Scenario 3

Morgan Stanley with the support from GKW , a counter offer with higher price.

Combined they have 48 %.

If this happen, WCY will has a hard time.

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AK_Francis
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18-Jan-2009 18:23

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if not sure, then dun dip your head into ds burger loh. nothing to lose one. Cheers.

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derekchong
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18-Jan-2009 17:59

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Alert Admin 3 possible scenario.

Scenario 1

WCY offer failed and can only buy 1% of UIC share in any 6 month period.

Scenario 2

Morgan Stanley took the offer and WCY shares increased to 42 %

GKW now the second largest shareholder with 36 %

Scenario 3

Morgan Stanley with the support from GKW , a counter offer with higher price.

Combined they have 48 %.

If this happen, WCY will has a hard time.

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AK_Francis
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16-Jan-2009 12:44

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Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers."

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Ha ha, DIC also in the same ship. Wondering how much perks d people can get fr d new budget.

Much hard cash had been evapourated fr our pockets. D amount getting fr d new budget to put back inside our pocket, negligible liao, guesses.

Nonetheless, as d old folk said, investment is 5-30yrs down d line ones. Thats not wrong either. Wait long long is the words loh. Still worth a cheer.

Time for break.

shplayer ( Date: 16-Jan-2009 12:16) Posted:

Temasick got no more $$$. Lost all in foreign banks, Foreign telecom cos, Aussie Child care...etc. Now, sold or trying to sell assets (SpFood, power stations) to recoup some $$$. So, don't think they can afford such a venture at this time. Perhaps its better this way, cos whatever they touch, they lose $$$$, which is our $$$$.

Also, many years ago, Temasick, thru DS, tried to takeover OUB Group.......but got outsmarted, out manueovered by WCY....and OUB fell into the hands of WCY and was merged with UOB.

Today, UOL still controlled by WCY......so, looks like Temasick's effort to block was in vain.....

Many years ago, Sp Food was a subs of SembCorp. Xx Jinx tried to sell the shares of Spfood back to SCI shareholders thru a rights issue. SCI shareholders revolted on the grounds of why should they pay for something they already own.....Xx Jinx thot sharholders were stupid......but this did not work. In the end, Temasick bought Spfood from SCI.

Not so long ago, before the oil rig boom, Temasick made a GO for SembMar for $1.10.......intending to take it private.......This exercise failed cos shareholders saw the value of SM.

4 years ago, Temasick made a GO for NOL at 2.80......increasing their stake from about 28% to 68%.....today, NOL is trading at 1.10.

derekchong ( Date: 16-Jan-2009 10:33) Posted:

Many years ago, WCY tried to buy UOL at dirt cheap price and

was challenged by Temasek. This time he try on UIC.

Will Temasek challenge him again.

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shplayer
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16-Jan-2009 12:16

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Also, many years ago, Temasick, thru DS, tried to takeover OUB Group.......but got outsmarted, out manueovered by WCY....and OUB fell into the hands of WCY and was merged with UOB.

Today, UOL still controlled by WCY......so, looks like Temasick's effort to block was in vain.....

Not so long ago, before the oil rig boom, Temasick made a GO for SembMar for $1.10.......intending to take it private.......This exercise failed cos shareholders saw the value of SM.

4 years ago, Temasick made a GO for NOL at 2.80......increasing their stake from about 28% to 68%.....today, NOL is trading at 1.10.

derekchong ( Date: 16-Jan-2009 10:33) Posted:

Many years ago, WCY tried to buy UOL at dirt cheap price and

was challenged by Temasek. This time he try on UIC.

Will Temasek challenge him again.

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derekchong
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16-Jan-2009 10:33

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Alert Admin Many years ago, WCY tried to buy UOL at dirt cheap price and

was challenged by Temasek. This time he try on UIC.

Will Temasek challenge him again.

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knightbridge
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14-Jan-2009 17:25

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Alert Admin Wah Tycoon buying up most of the office landbank space at half price in singapore... Rich still rule man... buying at 50% of NTA..

Meaning most of the valuation office space in shenton at market price @ 50% discount for him... Privatisation of UIC and sell to the market at lower still make fat fat money

How not to make money for the rich with the current depress property counters., trading at 60% below book value.. Buy up the company and delist it.. I think more of such deal will come..

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shplayer
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14-Jan-2009 17:09

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elf,

No big deal lah...this is a DUD.

elfinchilde ( Date: 14-Jan-2009 11:42) Posted:

augh! and i haven't bought it yet!! *bangs head on wall*

lol.

g'luck to those vested! :))))

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elfinchilde
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14-Jan-2009 11:42

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Alert Admin augh! and i haven't bought it yet!! *bangs head on wall*

lol.

g'luck to those vested! :))))

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Farmer
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14-Jan-2009 10:56

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Alert Admin Those who's bullish on the pending announcement, there's still Haw Paw around which is also belongs to WCY. Hmm.. suspect have something to do with the Philipine Tycoon GWS.

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katak88
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14-Jan-2009 10:34

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UOL also halted trading this morning. must be related corporate actions announcement by these 3 companies owned by WCY

shplayer ( Date: 14-Jan-2009 09:15) Posted:

UIC & SpLand trading halt.

GO announcement?

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shplayer
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14-Jan-2009 09:15

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Alert Admin UIC & SpLand trading halt.

GO announcement?

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TradeChancellor
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13-Jan-2009 18:51

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Alert Admin Controlled accumulation. yup, noticed a spike in volume recently but price crawled up only slowly. Gokongwei has now crossed the 35% mark with MS 12%.

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derekchong
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13-Jan-2009 14:38

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Alert Admin Volumn building up for this counter. Is something going on?

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