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Hulumas
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04-Dec-2008 18:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Conventional invest in Blue chip methodology in the past will not be valid anymore!!! The era is change now, all blue chip subjected the most to severely heavy deleveraging and credit crunch effect rather than other small caps or penny shares!!! I myself start switching several blue chip of my holding to selective small and penny shares. It is hard to believe now, large cap or blue chips subjected to more share price downward risk!!!

stupidfool      ( Date: 04-Dec-2008 12:25) Posted:



Listen to me because i am not a book salesman,i do not do blog and i do not conduct seminar.

Just invest ur money in good solid blue chips with good dividends yield....overtime u will be rewarded.

Just KISS=keep it simple stupid.

 
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elfinchilde
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04-Dec-2008 13:41     
 
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as long as your method works for you, i'll not knock it. :)

cheers!



stupidfool      ( Date: 04-Dec-2008 12:25) Posted:



Listen to me because i am not a book salesman,i do not do blog and i do not conduct seminar.

Just invest ur money in good solid blue chips with good dividends yield....overtime u will be rewarded.

Just KISS=keep it simple stupid.

 
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iPunter
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04-Dec-2008 12:59     
 
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Excuse me, Sir...

May I know how much money you have lost in the past one year by holding on to your stocks? ...Smiley

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stupidfool
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04-Dec-2008 12:25     
 
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Listen to me because i am not a book salesman,i do not do blog and i do not conduct seminar.

Just invest ur money in good solid blue chips with good dividends yield....overtime u will be rewarded.

Just KISS=keep it simple stupid.

 
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elfinchilde
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04-Dec-2008 12:17     
 
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i'm blithely going to ignore all the arguments here and just focus on what's useful....

cashiertan has recommended two excellent sites there. :)

personally, the only two books on trading i like are the intelligent investor, and trading in the zone. Both, you'll realise, have more to do with psychology than actual 'winning systems'. since really, without self-knowledge or discipline, even the best technical tools/FA skills would be pointless.

anw, more importantly: STI is surprisingly resilient. Look for the counters with nice little green candles, and buy on dip for capricorn-leading to obama taking office.

they'll bail out the auto-makers. it's a lot of wayang going on, but they'll bail them out. ie, majority of media is going to focus on the positive, even though the data is bad and getting worse. Markets follow sentiment; media controls sentiment. It is a phenomenon known as media fatigue: where all the news is so bad, people get tired of it, and they just ignore it/discount it.

need to adopt a consistent buy-on-dip philosophy. follow the large lots. keep spare bullets.

above for longterm folks only.
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iPunter
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04-Dec-2008 09:32     
 
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Hahaha... I suppose that's why we see so many expensive coaching courses these days... Smiley

But he who has learnt to preserve capital will be able to trade forever. 

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harryp
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04-Dec-2008 09:29     
 
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Teaching others to trade when you lose all your capital is a fast way to earn enough seed money for enterimng the market again.



iPunter      ( Date: 04-Dec-2008 09:10) Posted:

Sifu is right again...

Without capital, how is one going to trade another day?... hehehe... Smiley
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iPunter
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04-Dec-2008 09:10     
 
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Sifu is right again...

Without capital, how is one going to trade another day?... hehehe... Smiley

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ten4one
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04-Dec-2008 08:47     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Oh yes, once you've learnt how to protect your capital, investing becomes really easy! Cheers!
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iPunter
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This post by brother Livermore is so useful it's worth reposting...Smiley


Livermore      ( Date: 30-Nov-2008 09:32) Posted:



Hope you had a look at this Sunday Times newspaper on pag 24. Mrs Macwilliams is a options trainer. Her advice,"Always focus on protecting your capital and the returns will follow. Approach the stock market like a business. Always have an exit strategy with either a profit goal or loss potential. When your position begins to lose value, honours your loss target and do not look back"

 

Ask yourself this question, If you buy a stock at $1.50 and let it slide all the way down to 50c, is that capital protection? If you did not cut loss earlier, you find that you don't have enough capital now to buy stocks at cheaper price now.

 

To me one of the common mistake is that some people don't really track their overall net position. i.e since the day you started in stock market what much money have you made or lost. When you track that daily, your actions to protect capital is easier. Reality is when you buy too many stocks, it is very hard to track.
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cashiertan
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04-Dec-2008 05:31     
 
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Try this for free. http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school 

after completing this FREE chart school, you should be able to trade reasonably well and also 

those who want to go to forex can try this for FREE http://www.babypips.com/

There is no need to buy any ebook to learn Trading Profitable. Dun be con by Ipunter to buy his ebooks. I have copies of his "recommendations" and I would say they are mostly useless for trading. Unless you want to give him 60+% of comm when you buy the ebooks please feel free to go ahead.

For those who want to try one trading stratefy which is relatively easy to use and follow plus easy to filter stocks charts for trading can try the below. I use it for trading E-Mini and Forex as one of my filter indicators. Stadalone by itself should already increase your winning percentage and makes ur trading easier. Those who already have their own system, i would suggest u to try out before going live trading with it like I did for 2 weeks (cant remember, long ago)
 
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iPunter
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03-Dec-2008 12:42     
 
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I am sure everyone here wants to learn from CashierTan how to make a million... hehehe... 
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iPunter
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03-Dec-2008 12:41     
 
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CashierTan should be the one teaching everyone here how to make money,

since he has told us he has made one million here already... hehehe... Smiley
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Livermore
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03-Dec-2008 12:34     
 
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 Alert Admin 		In some ways the stock market is a bit like war strategy. As a general, first I instruct my elite commandos to do surveilance and get more information on the enermy. Once you attack and see your enermy being weakened, you send more soldiers to finish off the enermy. If the enermies proves too strong, retreat. In this way, unfortunately you may have some soldiers killed, but at least most of your battalion is still intact.  
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ten4one
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01-Dec-2008 06:15     
 
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Have a happy HoHoHoHo...Ho-liday, elfin! Cheers!

Me this year is going to Bintan (to eat & sleep) to cut costs and preserve bullets..hehehe!
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AK_Francis
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01-Dec-2008 00:27     
 
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 Alert Admin 		agreed. no do in Dec, May consider Aussie, as S$ now much higher.

elfinchilde      ( Date: 30-Nov-2008 23:03) Posted:

hear hear. :)

KISS rule applies in trading: Keep It Simple, Stupid.

the less indicators, the less justifications, the less white noise, the better off one is. Eliminate all personal feeling, likes, dislikes, and just see a pure chart for what it is. Forum bickerings and all disagreements, discard. They are white noise, they do not help. After all, for everyone who sees a bear, another will see a bull. Why waste time in proving oneself right in words, when the better reward is in the market?

Right now: everything on the dow. this rise should take to 9,500 or so. To note decrease in vol as price increased. Quaruple witching on the 3rd friday of dec.

SSE is the interesting one. it has been creeping up. If the next down of the DJIA holds above the 7,900-8,000 mark, and SSE can creep back to 2,500, that sets the stage for a possible Capricorn effect.

won't be on frequently anymore; going for hols til mid jan.

cheers!   



ten4one      ( Date: 25-Nov-2008 09:45) Posted:

Aiyah, just keep thing simple and know yourself better; the rest will take care of itself. Cheers!
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elfinchilde
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30-Nov-2008 23:03     
 
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hear hear. :)

KISS rule applies in trading: Keep It Simple, Stupid.

the less indicators, the less justifications, the less white noise, the better off one is. Eliminate all personal feeling, likes, dislikes, and just see a pure chart for what it is. Forum bickerings and all disagreements, discard. They are white noise, they do not help. After all, for everyone who sees a bear, another will see a bull. Why waste time in proving oneself right in words, when the better reward is in the market?

Right now: everything on the dow. this rise should take to 9,500 or so. To note decrease in vol as price increased. Quaruple witching on the 3rd friday of dec.

SSE is the interesting one. it has been creeping up. If the next down of the DJIA holds above the 7,900-8,000 mark, and SSE can creep back to 2,500, that sets the stage for a possible Capricorn effect.

won't be on frequently anymore; going for hols til mid jan.

cheers!   



ten4one      ( Date: 25-Nov-2008 09:45) Posted:

Aiyah, just keep thing simple and know yourself better; the rest will take care of itself. Cheers!
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Livermore
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30-Nov-2008 15:28     
 
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In stock market :

1. Be confident but not over confident

2  Be happy with your winnings but not necessarily need to be overly ecstatic.

3. Can be optimistic but maybe not overly optimistic

Keep two feet on the ground, be level headed and keep cool:)
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iPunter
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30-Nov-2008 12:22     
 
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One can have a long position forever and ever (until the bulls come home?)...

But then, what's the point...

Since the stock market can go drastically both ways within long periods,
why not capitalise on this reality instead?.. Smiley



Laulan      ( Date: 30-Nov-2008 09:58) Posted:

I think people are afraid to short because the fear of loss if the price shoots up. Buying gives the well being of "if the price drops, I hold and lock it up".  Shorting gives the fear that you cannot have a short position forever and the position must be covered somehow.
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Livermore
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 Alert Admin 		You miss the whole point. It is not that she is "ang mo", indian or chinese or whatever

stupidfool      ( Date: 30-Nov-2008 10:38) Posted:

Who is Mrs macwilliams?Jusr because she is ang mo ppl start to look up to her opinion?

Have to watch the company's earnings...that is the key.

When u buy shares u are buying into the company.Ig the company's is profitable,ur future returns is there.



Livermore      ( Date: 30-Nov-2008 09:32) Posted:



Hope you had a look at this Sunday Times newspaper on pag 24. Mrs Macwilliams is a options trainer. Her advice,"Always focus on protecting your capital and the returns will follow. Approach the stock market like a business. Always have an exit strategy with either a profit goal or loss potential. When your position begins to lose value, honours your loss target and do not look back"

 

Ask yourself this question, If you buy a stock at $1.50 and let it slide all the way down to 50c, is that capital protection? If you did not cut loss earlier, you find that you don't have enough capital now to buy stocks at cheaper price now.

 

To me one of the common mistake is that some people don't really track their overall net position. i.e since the day you started in stock market what much money have you made or lost. When you track that daily, your actions to protect capital is easier. Reality is when you buy too many stocks, it is very hard to track.
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