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elfinchilde
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10-Nov-2008 00:30
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yups, will pass on your messages to him. elfie misses him here too! he'll be back when he's back though, so meanwhile, let's let him enjoy his happy freedom. wenwen, ARs = annual reports. for me, i read less of books, more of real life; learning as you go along, literally. TA can't be learnt easily; it's consistent practice. Theory is one thing, application is a whole different thing. Getting used to your stock(s), their patterns. Helps if you do not have fixed ideas in your head. Got to keep fluid above all. Algorithms/fixed set: What do you mean by "fixed set"? for experienced traders, the KISS rule applies---ie, Keep It Simple, Stupid. (not meaning you ah! :P )---but yea. as n00bs, most will wanna do all the new fangled stuff and have a whole lot of indicators, complicated tech tools, etc. The reality is that every single indicator derives from price volume action. So if you can master that, you do not need much else. If you're talking about books, then the only two i'd recommend: The Intelligent Investor, by Benjamin Graham. and Trading in the Zone, by Mark Douglas. I know singaporegal recommends the Martin Pring book, so you may like to check that out too. Generally tho, what i'd say is learn the principles but be more fluid in application. Can't expect to be able to convert book knowledge directly into stock market. esp in a closed market like ours. Also: the most impt thiing in the market is not your TA/FA skills, but yourself. if one doesn't have a good understanding of himself/herself, then, no matter how good your tech skills may be, it's a setup for loss in the long term. cheers! |
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ilovebull
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07-Nov-2008 08:55
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Yes, I also miss shplayer posts. I believe many other forumers (especially those who FA guys) also miss his superb FA views/comments. Hi Elf, please help to convey to shplayer that we miss him and his posts. We look forward to his visiting this forum again so that we can continue to learn from him. Many thanks, Elf ! |
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wen.wen.89
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07-Nov-2008 08:45
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What are ARs? Do you read books? Can recommend some of them? As for TA, do you derive your own algorithm or do you follow a fixed set of TA? Where can one learn TA easily? Thank you for answering my many many questions!
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elfinchilde
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06-Nov-2008 22:35
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hi stupidfool, shplayer has retired and is currently enjoying his free days. i keep in touch with him occasionally; he still remains the gold standard in FA for me. richtan, too little tech info on the counter; insufficient to proceed on. surprisingly low vol for a china play tho. FA-wise, you need to read its prospectus and ask yourself if that is a business model you are really convinced by; if theirs is a product that can stand out from the others in the same field. the tide right now is against china; i do believe that will be the next implosion. china does not need to fail; it just needs to grow at 8% the next year. if you have friends working there/in business there, you'll know that the implosion is happening already; that already businessmen there are cutting back on expenditure and socialising etc. |
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SmartBear
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05-Nov-2008 01:05
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go sign up for her classes lah... she likes to teach ppl how to fish then give ppl the fish... |
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richtan
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05-Nov-2008 00:02
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Hi Elfin, I m re-posting this message just in case u missed it as it gets buried further & further below by all incoming messages. Your kind analysis on China Kunda is sincerely appreciated. Thanks a lot. |
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richtan
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04-Nov-2008 15:45
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Hi Elfin, Thanks a lot for your explanation & sharing. Btw, can I kindly request your TA & FA analysis on China Kunda as I m holding some since IPO but it doesn't seems to move but I saw CNA "Money Mind" coverage tat it has extremely good growth potential. I wish you all the best.
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stupidfool
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04-Nov-2008 15:24
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Hi elfinchilde what happen to shplayer?Never see any more posting from him? He got good posting that we can all share. |
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elfinchilde
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04-Nov-2008 14:21
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hmm... abt 10 years in the markets bah. or 7 years if you want to be legal. had some advantages though: started out with an internship in a foreign fund house; so literally sat beside them and saw them doing the trades etc. from there, you learn to relate it to the charts. helps that i have been interested in psychology for a long while. so you blend together: human patterns of behaviour, the charts, the reading of sentiment. FA is relatively new to me though: credit to shplayer and victorian for kindly teaching me in this aspect. as for forex, i'm just a newbie there. only started out this year cos stocks didn't give enough margin of safety from abt jul (which was abt when i started doing forex). uphill learning process. the rest of it is just practice, really. i read ARs almost everyday (since i consider my FA to be weak). Even for things i'm not vested in. it's all part of training oneself. there's no shortcut to success. actually i'd say that i'm not yet happy with myself: i can still be better. so still a long journey to go. shd add here that i have no degree or 'proper certification'. the only experience i have is, literally, from the market itself. so those wanting to learn from me should note this point, since i understand that certs are very important to s'poreans: i'm not going to pretend to be some certified expert or whatever. i'm just an ordinary person who grew up on the market's streets. cheers! |
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waverly
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04-Nov-2008 14:07
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Elfin I am amazed at your wealth of knowledge..from technicals, fundamentals, fx, everything.. how long did u take to accumulate such knowledge? |
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elfinchilde
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04-Nov-2008 13:55
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hi richtan, DCA = dollar cost average/averaging. it's a method of putting in your funds in separate portions into the market, so you can average up or down your buy price. a lot of insurance planners and financial advisors will tell you to do this: put aside a fixed sum of money monthly, and go in no matter what the market is, so that over the years, your cost price is low. To me, that's right principle, wrong application. eg, imagine if you DCA cosco from its peak monthly from 8.2 to now. the only thing you'd be facing is a certain scenario known as *moths fly out of wallet*. For one thing, DCA is mainly for longterm investors (think 5 year horizon or more). For another, you really need to choose your counters well. For a third, it isn't just blindly putting in your money every month: the proper way to DCA is via technicals. Those wanting to apply it on CD/XD plays need to be careful too: i have to stress here that not all counters will go back up to their CD levels. Some just fade away. cheers! |
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knightbridge
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04-Nov-2008 11:51
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Totally Agree.
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richtan
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04-Nov-2008 11:46
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Hi, Pardon my ignorance, plse advise wat is the meaning of "DCA". Thks a lot
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waverly
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04-Nov-2008 10:11
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Thanks CW and elfin for teaching
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harryp
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01-Nov-2008 12:03
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I think the pair where you practiced everyday i.e. USD/JPY will give a good indication or prediction of the carry trade and the Asian market. If this pair is dropping rapidly especially heading close towards 95.00, it looks very scary and usually the whole Asian market will starts to get red rapidly too. Some pleople guess this could be due to the unwinding of carry trade as the Yen is getting too expensive and those long on the pairs for interest gains are giving up by selling or "unwinding" it. Just another forex newbie opinion. Do not take this seriously :))
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baseerahmed
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01-Nov-2008 09:49
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respected harryp : thank you very much for pointing to babypips ... in fact i had read it earlier ... the basics are very easy to grasp ...but just curious to know how elfinchilde's comes up with "carry trade is unwinding now, etc " .... how to look out for the 'symptoms' ... from news ..anticipate BOJ announcement .. economic calendar ..etc .. btw ... for newbies ... www.babypips.com ...is a good site .... can get a good dose of TA lessons in there ...if u haven't ... how about munching on it this weekend ... hahaha ! |
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harryp
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01-Nov-2008 08:44
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Good basics on carry trade can be found here: http://www.babypips.com/school/the_carry_trade.html
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iPunter
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31-Oct-2008 21:30
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This may help enjoy the phenomenon of the carry trade... |
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baseerahmed
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31-Oct-2008 20:46
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..sigh... i still don't grasp this carry trade thingy ...to me .. its very elusive like the phantom ...when does this strike ,when does it come ,when does it go ...sigh .... |
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iPunter
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31-Oct-2008 15:59
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The only measure of our rightness is whether we lost money... The rest of the story is purely academic stuff... hehehe... |
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