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things every retail investor/trader should know
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ten4one
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16-Aug-2008 14:56
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Haha.....maybe they all spoke the same language : Head I win, tail I also win! These so-called 'Fun-Managers' are really having Funs with other people's funds for doing nothing except to 'invent' a new product and let other do the selling and get paid. They can't lose - you win, they win; you lose, they also win Cheers! |
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iPunter
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16-Aug-2008 13:46
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Today's newspapers contain a long list of unit trusts that have lost money dismally in the bear stock market... |
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ten4one
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16-Aug-2008 04:32
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Good or bad depends on which side of the scale you're weighing your bet. Therefore, STI < 2800 could mean different things to different Folks! Haha ozone.....................it'll have a different focal point thenCheers! |
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CWQuah
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15-Aug-2008 16:40
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Not a good thing if STI close < 2803.81. General mkt - SSE ok, HSI not too good. Nikkei < 13025, not too nice; purely consolidation. |
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elfinchilde
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15-Aug-2008 16:17
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general note on current market: STI at crucial pt of 2,800. note that as this is a pivot point (btwn 2,600 and 3,000), it means it is capable of movement in either direction. A lot of people automatically assume that once a counter/index hits a "support", it means it will rebound. This is not necessarily true. If you look at the crash of the Euro versus the USD in the past 2 weeks, you can see that a pivot point is exactly that: even chance of moving in either direction. Which direction is more likely, will be determined by other signals. Until then, a reaching of a pivot level is not a signal to buy nor sell: it's only a signal to watch. You buy/sell only on the first turn after the pivot. That may be an up or a down. Meanwhile, it's back to table tennis. |
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elfinchilde
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15-Aug-2008 14:17
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hey, singaporegal's here! yuppers, good article, ed88ks. so to summarise it: 1) Always have a plan, and a contingency plan 2) Never go against the market 3) never go against your own personality. And yea, not having a position is also a position. Gotta remember, be a live chicken, not a dead tiger! |
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iPunter
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15-Aug-2008 13:32
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Good post... :)
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ed88ks
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15-Aug-2008 13:07
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Hi folks, some nice article for u all When Traders Souls Are Tested
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ozone2002
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15-Aug-2008 12:58
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if its a hot lady giving the course ..i don't mind man :):):) | ||
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singaporegal
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15-Aug-2008 11:55
Yells: "Female TA nut" |
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I think a training course for SJ people by SJ people is a good idea. :) | ||
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baseerahmed
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15-Aug-2008 00:10
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iPunter
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14-Aug-2008 19:11
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Stock markets will go up only when everyone is bearish. |
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Livermore
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14-Aug-2008 12:34
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Oops misunderstood you
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SmartBear
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14-Aug-2008 10:26
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erm... u mean like the one posted below ?
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baseerahmed
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14-Aug-2008 10:01
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btw, this thread isn't just for me. If other veterans and market experts would like to share, or post differing opinions, please do so. It's best for learning this way. The only thing i ask is that we avoid all the name calling, onesupmanship and such-like that goes on in some other threads, please. in addition to the above , can we also keep the non-essential comments/trivias to a minimum ....so as to keep, and build up this thread into a solid and useful one .... : ) |
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iPunter
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14-Aug-2008 08:54
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Sifu always contribute good wisdom for us to lap up... hehehe...
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ten4one
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14-Aug-2008 08:37
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Elfin, I couldn't agree more with Mark Twain's "get the facts right first, distort them later.."; but it would be better to get the right facts early and distort them straight away in today's environments (especially the financial markets'). With due respect to Mark Twain and his thought at that time and situations - facts are always facts whether they're past, present or future. Understanding whether they're 'useful' in the applications could mean different results in different environments! Cheers! BTW, the reason for not to fall in love with a stock is just simply that when you're in love (whether with a thing or a person), your sentiment is playing a part in how you feel and react in a 'biased' way - thinking more with your heart and not your head! The result is often one way : Difficult and painful to part and may end up in 'HATE' ! Cheers! |
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Goodwins
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14-Aug-2008 00:28
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HI ALL, Anyone join the CMC trading competition? |
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elfinchilde
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14-Aug-2008 00:24
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yuppers to trader88, CWQuah and livermore. And livermore, i believe you may have mistaken my words: i didn't say i believed that SPC = crude, what i said was that was what the market believes. it's the point i'm trying to make: in business sense, we know we're right: all the points you guys raised are the correct ones. plus, few retail investors know that SPC's biz is actually far more complicated, if you've read their AR. it's divided into different segments. upstream for one may actually mean downstream for the other; that is how they hedge their position. But knowing business sense of a company, and seeing it applied in practice with its stock price, are two different things. Look at market movement. Correlate the two graphs of SPC and crude. What do you see? As long as in people's mind, the simplistic equation is crude = SPC, then, that's exactly how the stock will move. btw, this thread isn't just for me. If other veterans and market experts would like to share, or post differing opinions, please do so. It's best for learning this way. The only thing i ask is that we avoid all the name calling, onesupmanship and such-like that goes on in some other threads, please. |
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baseerahmed
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13-Aug-2008 23:32
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Smashing ! If these lessons are going to keep pace, I guess this is going to the hottest thread in SJ ! Beginners are going to have a feast ! Is this a prelude to something big ? Good luck ! |
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