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Is Biosensors a good buy?
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novena_33
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01-Jul-2008 14:53
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piss bro...any typo error or not har.....
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jackjames
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01-Jul-2008 14:53
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opss.. can't escape the sell down today.. @ 0.645... |
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 22:56
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Is "Efficacy" refering to short-term benefits like low restenosis and TLR? Is "Safety" refering to blood-clots? I think a lot of doctors in reality prefer "deliverability" (ease of implant and a less stressful ops) and "Price" (can make more profits out from patients). Not many patients are educated about DES clincial trial performance so they leave the choice of DES brand to their doctors. Very easily kena taken advantage if they meet unscrupulous doctors that insist on using a certain DES brand with "track record". | ||||
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30-Jun-2008 22:11
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Following is an extract from CRT Online - an on-line Poll : With the approval of Endeavor and Xience/Promus, what will determine your DES Selection. Deliverability 0.00% Safety 100 % Efficacy 0.00 % Price 0.00 % For info. |
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exodus
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30-Jun-2008 20:56
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 20:40
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I believe it should come by end 2008 and a lot of smart money will come in and mop up BIG's shares after seeing good LEADERS results. I think got 90% chance BIG will kena takeover. There could be some lucrative licensing deals already waiting for BIG out there but BIG is delaying them because more licensing deals means lesser takeover valuation. Another key event to look out for is Biomatrix's FDA IDE. BIG cannot afford to delay licensing out Biomatrix USA territory after they get their IDE (plus good LEADERS results). I think internally JNJ already knew NEVO stent program will not work and JNJ don't really have to wait for NEVO results to decide whether to make a bid on BIG or not. If they do wait until early next year then make an offer, JNJ is effectively telling the world that their NEVO DES trial results flopped and they have no other choice but to buy up another stent developer. Good LEADERS results will formally kick-start BIG's M&A fever. Takeover premium will be very freaking high for this stock. Im riding this roller-coaster all the way to the eventual jackpot.
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 20:15
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In consideration for such equity interest, Biosensors will enter into a license agreement with JW Medical to license certain of its drug-eluting stent technology to JW Medical on a non-exclusive basis, including its biodegradable polymer, polymer free technology and Biolimus A9. Biosensors will not pay any cash consideration for such acquisition. The Nov 2006 agreement looks like a prelude to the actual licensing agreement between BIG and JWMS. BIG do not have to pay for the first 10% stake in JWMS. The actual licencing agreement will involve a multi-million lump sum initial payment plus huge percentage of royalty from product sales according to market licensing practice. Looks like JWMS is putting the cart before the horse (using BIG's technology first without any licensing deal) and later on reversing the horse position (with the Nov 2006 deal). JWMS used BIG's DES IPs, breached BIG's patent first, then want to give BIG 10% free shares plus option to subscribe a further 10% followed by a licensing agreement. The funny thing is JWMS is using BIG's S-stent metal strut plus PLA biodegradable polymer technology on Sirolimus drug (I think thats clearly a breach of BIG's patent as discussed by P-A-E in his earlier detailed patent posts). So i suspect there could be a gentleman's agreement much earlier which eventually led to the Nov 2006 agreement of free 10% JWMS shares (plus another 10% option) plus actual licensing agreement. |
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exodus
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30-Jun-2008 20:13
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$3. $3. $3. $3. $3. $3. $3. $3. $3. $3. | ||||
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 18:09
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There was never a licensing agreement between BIG and JWMS. In 2003, the BIG/WeiGao JV was for manufacturing catheters for BIG only and there was no mentioned of DES and DES technology transfer. The Nov 2006 deal was about JWMS becoming an associate company of BIG and becoming BIG's licensee. The Nov 2006 deal was scrapped later on when Medtronic came into the picture. WeiGao is a big company in china and operating in big city area. I think if BIG were to sue WeiGao for patent breach, they do stand a chance of winning the patent case. Of course things don't have to turn out so ugly and there are always business deals to mend relationships. LETTER OF INTENT SIGNED WITH SHANDONG WEIGAO GROUP MEDICAL POLYMER COMPANY LIMITED Biosensors International Group, Ltd. (" The net tangible asset value attributable to the 10% equity interest to be acquired by Biosensors will be approximately RMB 2.269 million determined on the basis of the audited net tangible assets of JW Medical for its most recent completed financial year ended 31 December 2005 which were RMB 22.69 million. In consideration for such equity interest, Biosensors will enter into a license agreement with JW Medical to license certain of its drug-eluting stent technology to JW Medical on a non-exclusive basis, including its biodegradable polymer, polymer free technology and Biolimus A9. Biosensors will not pay any cash consideration for such acquisition. Biosensors believes that this arrangement will allow both parties to leverage on their mutual strengths – Weigao will have use of the latest drug-eluting stent technology and Biosensors will be able to leverage on Weigao’s existing distribution network in China. Together they will be better positioned to penetrate the growing drug-eluting stent market in China. The Letter of Intent also provides that Biosensors will have an option to acquire an additional 10% equity interest in JW Medical from the two existing shareholders of JW Medical, for an aggregate consideration calculated at the higher of (i) US$10 million or (ii) 10% of 4 times the actual revenues of JW Medical for the calendar year 2007. Such consideration may be satisfied either in cash or by way of new shares to be issued by Biosensors, at the option of such selling shareholders, which will be made in accordance with the requirements of the listing rules of the Singapore Exchange Securities Trading Limited (“ The Letter of Intent also provides that Biosensors and Weigao will streamline their existing joint-venture manufacturing operation in China (“ Biosensors has, together with Weigao, released a joint press release today. A copy of thejoint press release is attached to this announcement for reference. Issued by BIG") is pleased to announce that it has entered into a Letter of Intent (the “Letter of Intent”) with Shandong Weigao Group Medical Polymer Company Limited (“Weigao”) to explore opportunities for collaboration between the two companies. Biosensors will be negotiating definitive agreements with Weigao and JW Medical System Limited (“JW Medical”), a privately owned drug-eluting stent company in China which is 50 percent owned by Weigao, pursuant to which Biosensors will acquire a 10% equity interest in JW Medical.SGX-ST”), including, if necessary, any requirements to seek the approval of shareholders under Chapter 10 of the SGX-ST Listing Manual.Weigao Biosensors”) that was formed in 2003 between the parent company of Weigao and Biosensors International Pte Ltd, a subsidiary of Biosensors. JW Medical will acquire a 50% equity interest in Weigao Biosensors from the parent company of Weigao and a 1% equity interest in Weigao Biosensors from BSI, thereby resulting in an equity position in Weigo Biosensors of 51%, with the remaining 49% owned by BSI. Weigao Biosensors will continue to focus on the manufacturing of critical care products capitalizing on cost effectiveness through enhanced operations in China while also capitalizing on JW Medical's direct sales force to expand its channels of distribution, including distributing the full range of critical care catheter systems.BIOSENSORS INTERNATIONAL GROUP, LTD. Yang Joo Chua Secretary
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PensionAlterEgo
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30-Jun-2008 13:13
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Hi Bengster, can you clarify point 2. I had the impression that JWMS had licensed the PLA formulation from the start and was not infringing on Bio's patent. Unless JWMS had been using PLA prior to the Nov 1st 2006 agreement without Bio's permission. From records, BIG and Weigao had formed a partnership for manufacturing under the name "Weigao Biosensors" in 2003. And at 1st Nov 2006, Weigao had the ownership of 50% stake in JWMS. I am not sure when JWMS came into the ownership of Weigao but could there have been an agreement in place between Wiegao and Biosensors for use of the PLA by JWMS? In summary, I do not quite aggree on point 2... as enforcing patent laws in China is a tough call. All the more, if the company trying to enforce the patent is from Singapore. If it's a US company which is trying to sue, then China company might be more scared due to powerful US Govt sanctions.. Point 1 is more convincing to me. There is certainly more value in owning BIG's shares since JWMS without much IP will be subjected to competition from other players..
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 12:12
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Actually JWMS is ripe for a listing in 2009. I believe JWMS can get a valuation of US$800m (20 times PE) for a listing in 2009. It appears that WeiGao is being short-changed but there could be something much more valuable about BIG that people are not aware of. I can think of 3 reasons why WeiGao agree to sell their JWMS crown jewel in exchange for a loss making company's shares: 1. WeiGao/Medtronic genuinely think holding BIG's shares has more potential than holding JWMS' shares because BIG has got Proprietary IPs and patents. 2. JWMS is clearly breaching BIG's limus on biodegradable polymer patent and arm-twisted by BIG to become their subsidiary or face heavy consequences. 3. WeiGao has a "gentleman" agreement with Medtronic (also holding 15% of WeiGao as a strategic shareholder). WeiGao will support Medtronic in the event Medtronic launch a takeover bid on BIG. WeiGao (as a substantial shareholder of BIG of over 10%) will not sell BIG's their shares to other takeover offers from rival DES companies like JNJ. |
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jackjames
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30-Jun-2008 11:57
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that possibility is very high.... ha ha..
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Centaur
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30-Jun-2008 11:42
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I do agree with you views. Looking at it this way, based on last FY, i was wondering that there is no reason for a very profitable company (JWMS) to sell to a loss making company (BIG) and then in return get the shares from the loss making company. That is like one of the most irrational and value destroying decision to a shareholder of the profit making company. Unless of course, JWMS can see the value in BIG and thus is willing to take the great plunge by merging themselves with BIG. Wonder what other things do they see in BIG besides what have been discussed in this forum.
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bengster68
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30-Jun-2008 11:26
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JWMS deal is very crucial to BIG to become the "Number One DES player in Asia". EXCEL DES is already proven to perform extremely good as per the 2,000 patient CREATE trial. Alternatively, we can also look at things this way. BIG issue more shares to buy all the earnings of JWMS. JWMS is expected at make at least US$25m this year and US$40m next year. JWMS' EXCEL DES will be the top 2 DES brand in China by end 2008. Any MNC taking over BIG will also be taking over their "Number One DES player in Asia" position. There is still very huge growth potential in Asia and 3rd world countries for DES products despite sluggish sales in first world Ang Moh countries.
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Centaur
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30-Jun-2008 10:45
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Actually, i don't intend to reply to them lah but need to make some sense of the circular mah... issue so many shares, somemore got put options one so better to seek some alternate views. ![]() |
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iPunter
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30-Jun-2008 10:32
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Hahaha... I used to receive huge mail at regular intervals from all the companies I bought... |
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ruanlai
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30-Jun-2008 10:30
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Still holding on to this stupid counter........think of dump it away........afraid of once dump it shoots up sky high........sign | ||||
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jackjames
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30-Jun-2008 10:27
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i threw away the circulars... we are small fries, not need to reply them .... but hey, please inform us the time and venue of the AGM ya... i might go if i have time, heee. |
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Centaur
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30-Jun-2008 10:13
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Hi guys, For those who have received the circulars, do you have any comments? especially the one on put options? Good or bad? |
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s052728
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28-Jun-2008 23:07
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i like the chart formation of this share. its a falling wedge. this is a bullish chart pattern. there shd be a upward breakout coming. |
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