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03-Jul-2009 17:04

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same same la... just like you think TA will work and your TA controls lor :) same same... :)

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 17:03) Posted:

It is not a matter of whether forumers follow or not, it is the affirmative tone "Today gonna go up 0.16", like as if he/she is dominating the mkt, controlling the mkt like Lord Buddha controlling Monkey King in his 5 mountains Smiley Smiley Smiley . Smiley Smiley Smiley

Pity u, can't even differentiate between opinion ( "Today may go up 0.16") n affirmative tone "Today gonna go up 0.16",

anfield_76 ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:49) Posted:

same same la... you think people will just follow newtothis when he said "today gonna go up 0.16" just because he said so?! that is just his opinion too. and it's for the forumers to "dyodd"

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03-Jul-2009 16:49

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same same la... you think people will just follow newtothis when he said "today gonna go up 0.16" just because he said so?! that is just his opinion too. and it's for the forumers to "dyodd".

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:44) Posted:

U are wrong Smiley Smiley Smiley , my chart analysis is just purely my view n analysis for sharing n exchanging pointers with those TA practitioners, not for u, since u dun appreciate.

Smiley Smiley Smiley At no time did I claim tat I m correct nor make buy/sell call nor make wild claims like "Today gonna go up 0.16", I share my views n let fellow forumers dyodd.

anfield_76 ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:35) Posted:

:) you win some, you lose some lor.

some followed, earned money, you good. others followed, lose money, you bad.

i read, i dun follow and do opposite, i earn money, i also think you good :)

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03-Jul-2009 16:38

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when report out?

newtothis ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:34) Posted:

China Sport - Q2 report will be rosy :P

Watch out

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03-Jul-2009 16:35

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:) you win some, you lose some lor.

some followed, earned money, you good. others followed, lose money, you bad.

i read, i dun follow and do opposite, i earn money, i also think you good :)

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:31) Posted:

U are stepping on landmines n insulting Smiley

many of the forumers here tat had express appreciation to me for sharing my chart analysis as gullible.

anfield_76 ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:19) Posted:

i read and laugh at how gullible some people can be? and i think your charts quite good to me recently, have been doing the opposite and doing quite well :

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03-Jul-2009 16:29

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same same to you, richtan :)

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:26) Posted:

Smiley Smiley Smiley U are feeling intense pressure bcos u r trying hard to honour your words n trying to push it up to 0.16, which is a futile effort, sure, the price will go up one fine day but not bcos u push it up, it is the mkt forces tat push it up or down

Just wondering who is not acting n behaving hie/her age, if u are matured nuf u should not be so garang to say "Gonna Touch 0.16 TODAY" like a 3 yrs old kid like tat, even b4 the mkt close as if u dominate the mkt, u think u are Lord Buddha controlling Monkey King in his 5 mountains Smiley Smiley Smiley . Smiley Smiley Smiley

newtothis ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 15:47) Posted:

You have no idea "The amount of pressure we have today", most china stock rise have you notice ? Can you please behave and act like your age ?

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03-Jul-2009 16:19

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i read and laugh at how gullible some people can be? and i think your charts quite good to me recently, have been doing the opposite and doing quite well :)

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 16:16) Posted:

Whether it is a pot calling the kettle black, let fellow forumers judge Smiley Smiley Smiley

This shows u know nuts about TA Smiley Smiley Smiley , except those TA practitioners knows tat TA is not infallible.

U are just one of the very few TA detractors n nemesis of TA, either u are not following all the post in this forum or pretend not to know, if I m a black kettle, I wont be receiving so much apprecaition of thanks for my chart analysis n advice n sharing n my pm flooded with request for chart analysis.

Since u are so anti-TA n expect TA to be not infallible, then ignore my chart posting and

plse, plse, plse Smiley Smiley Smiley for heaven's sake, why u still reading my TA,

plse, plse, plse, Smiley Smiley Smiley ignore my chart analysis, I post for those who appreciate

my TA analysis n wish to exchange pointers with me..

anfield_76 ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 15:55) Posted:

i think it is a matter of pot calling kettle black, richtan?? from what i can see, none of what you have "predicted"/"analysed" came true yet too :)

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03-Jul-2009 15:55

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i think it is a matter of pot calling kettle black, richtan?? from what i can see, none of what you have "predicted"/"analysed" came true yet too :)

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 15:29) Posted:

. today, newtothis wise up liow, dare not to be so garang to say "Gonna Touch 0.16 TODAY" unlike wat he/she did on Wed even b4 mkt close, as if he/she control n dominate the mkt n mkt at his/her mercy like tat.

richtan ( Date: 03-Jul-2009 11:29) Posted:

I sincerely hope tat in future, u dun be so garang to say "Gonna Touch 0.16 TODAY" b4 the day is over, otherwise u give false hope n mislead gullible newbies (unless tats is your intention as a deceptive ploy), when it ends up the last 2 days, it didn't touch 0.16 n now u are trying to console n appease those tat bot between 14 to 15 tat they did not lose (in fact, there is a loss as u did not factor in n include the charges yet) based on your garang post

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30-Jun-2009 12:08

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no need to doubt la, those two who go opposite of you definitely not the same person la. got ways to check one.

as much as richtan keep pointing towards newtothis having an agenda/ulterior motives, richtan may also have an "agenda" and "ulterior motive", as "no one owes anyone a living". admire newtothis way better :) newtothis, do PM me TP of CHX!

richtan ( Date: 30-Jun-2009 11:25) Posted:

Thanks Bintang for your appreciation,

I m truly heartened tat numerous forumers had express their thanks except for these 2 (or could be 2-in 1) detractors of TA.

Can kindly post your chart on the inverse H&S n neckline u mentioned as pictures tell a thousand words. Thaks a lot

Bintang ( Date: 30-Jun-2009 11:03) Posted:

I also appreciate richtan 's effort in analysing the chart n post valuable comments . A big THANKS !

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29-Jun-2009 22:10

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woo... well said! good post for you... but some people/person will still say this say that and name calling etc. as long as anyone who presents something alternate, it's a bad thing :)

choonmng ( Date: 29-Jun-2009 16:43) Posted:

Just trying to say something fair for newtothis. newtothis has been advising against buying when counter is dropping to 0.12 and indeed it went down to this level. Even before this counter rose to 0.18 newtothis has advised on the reversal to look out for. (i personally benefited from his calls)

No doubt newtothis did not share his source of information but i think at certain point we should be open that some in the forum may have access to information that will be beneficial for us which is not based on TA.

newtothis ( Date: 29-Jun-2009 10:42) Posted:

Nevermind I have no comments :) Your only just an average trader. Not Manipulators

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25-Jun-2009 22:57

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if you want to talk about the "tumbling" issue, similarly when people read your posts way back then, the price was 0.21 or so, it did dropped to 0.14 from then on. if people without holding power were to enter the market back then on reading how positive things were, they would have been burnt. so please, you do owe people an "amended post".

as much as newtothis is not a god, neither are you. don't behave to be too defensive when people start saying things opposite from yours!

richtan ( Date: 25-Jun-2009 16:37) Posted:

Tats not the right thing to do, unless u have ulterior motive, otherwise in the 1st place,

dun make such "confident" n wild misleading claims,

(thus why I did not follow blindly n instead do my own due diligence),

Commom, be humble, admit tat we are humans (humans can only say "maybe, possibly"), we are not GOD,.

Only GOD can say with such confidence.

Since u made such "confident" posting in tat thread, then u owe forumers an amended post

back in tat thread, not in CHHX thread as not everyone reads every thread n furthermore, those gullible forumers

who read your "confident" post (but did not read CHHX thread) n dare not enter a trade would have missed a money-making opportunity.

newtothis ( Date: 25-Jun-2009 16:23) Posted:

i post that. Then i quickly post back in china hongx post saying that they buy back... ..... please ..... I told u they change and switch easily....

anyway good luck to you.

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25-Jun-2009 17:59

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newtothis, there is nothing to apologise at all. if there is a need for you apologise just because you made a call, then NO ONE should insinuate anything at all in this forum. dun let richtan's rant put you off.

richtan ( Date: 25-Jun-2009 16:39) Posted:

Since u said tat "they change and switch easily.... ", then, all the more u shouldn't post such "confident" posting.

richtan ( Date: 25-Jun-2009 16:37) Posted:

Tats not the right thing to do, unless u have ulterior motive, otherwise in the 1st place,

dun make such "confident" n wild misleading claims,

(thus why I did not follow blindly n instead do my own due diligence),

Commom, be humble, admit tat we are humans (humans can only say "maybe, possibly"), we are not GOD,.

Only GOD can say with such confidence.

Since u made such "confident" posting in tat thread, then u owe forumers an amended post

back in tat thread, not in CHHX thread as not everyone reads every thread n furthermore, those gullible forumers

who read your "confident" post (but did not read CHHX thread) n dare not enter a trade would have missed a money-making opportunity.

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20-Jun-2009 05:41

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ridiculous... newtothis was simply just stating his point of view from what he has gathered. frankly there is no need to reply with "doesn't bother me a single little bit" - that's so immatured for someone with so much experience! i would imagined another round of "serious discussion" by richtan if someone were to post a similar type of reply to his chart.

like what richtan said in his previous post - do unto others what you want others to do unto you.

*this is not a personal attack, just that i see already quite "buay song" as whatever anyone said against what richtan thinks, he always behave this way.

richtan ( Date: 19-Jun-2009 23:06) Posted:

It really doesn't bother me a single little bit whether BB want him down or not, I stick to my trade plan, on a closing below 15, I will exit n take profit the next trading day (no regrets even if it goes up later) n may or may not come back again even if there is any buy sign depending on whether I found any other counters with buy sign prior to the buy sign from this counter (1st come 1st enter).

newtothis ( Date: 19-Jun-2009 18:05) Posted:

Like i always say about China Hongx .......... Kinda hard............

Too many BB want him down. It will need to drop alittle more... unless...... There is some extremely news announce from China Hongx.... otherwise it will not rise ....

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15-Jun-2009 17:37

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yeah... too strong a statement to make... on the other hand, there are possibilities:

1) newtothis never trade a single cent before

2) newtothis trades only other people's money

3) newtothis bought shares but has never sold any, so no losses made before at all (if you exclude paper loss)

4) newtothis meant he has never lost a cent in his trade of Hong Xing

5) newtothis started trading when the market was at it's lowest, so all his trades are earning money now

Smiley

fartist ( Date: 15-Jun-2009 17:22) Posted:

That's a strong statement.

newtothis ( Date: 15-Jun-2009 16:53) Posted:

FYI ... I never lost a cent in my trade.

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15-Jun-2009 13:53

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:) hahaha... newtothis, was watching bloomberg tv last week, one of the financial guru said chartist mostly are wrong. so you could be right too!

no need to say too much because you will be termed as *emotional/new horn/never study charts/never do TA/nothing to back up what you are saying (*delete where appropriate)

how about this scenario:

people who has earned a lot since the rally from 5 cents, kept accumulating for the last 3 weeks to create a false sense that people are "silently accumulating" so that more people will be interested in the stock, hoping to push up the price even further before dumping them. however, right not many people are biting, and these big earners decided to let go once and for all, since they have already earned enough from 5 cents until now.

newtothis ( Date: 15-Jun-2009 12:57) Posted:

You really think chart can really really predict what BB want to do ? :)

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15-Jun-2009 09:36

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yup, the silent accumulators accumulated silently and people started selling obviously and caught the silent accumulators off guard... that's my "theory"

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15-Jun-2009 09:34

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HURRAY!

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12-Jun-2009 13:15

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"be able to recognize when you're reading or hearing material biased to your own side." and "忠言逆耳"

no point arguing, let time tell whether one is right or not.

some will say "see see... i told you it will drop", another will say "see see... i told you it will go up", yet another will say many many things in CAPITAL LETTERS and being chided for being emotional and some will say "TA says this, TA says that... then ended with dyodd"

you read, you digest.

if you believe, fine.

if you don't believe, fine.

if you think people benefit from your views (for/against), keep posting - else the title of this thread should be "China Hongxing - enter for those with positive outlooks only".

p.s: seriously, i am not against anyone - lest some people may think so.

p.p.s: maybe there are some people out there who are good at TA and has alternate/opposite views can present his/her cases.

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01-Jun-2009 23:15

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just to re-iterate, my "outcry" (if that's what richtan wants to put it) was certainly not emotional, neither does it arise from greed/fear/ulterior motives. i stand by what i think and i have not apologised for my personal opinion. my statement was purely an appreciation of someone who is kind enough to provide an alternate point of view that different from from mine.

over and out!

"A closed mind is like a closed book - just a block of wood" - Chinese Proverb

richtan ( Date: 30-May-2009 17:40) Posted:

Cheong Wee & Weishen88 & fellow forumers,

I sincerely appreciate your reply & graciously accept his/her apologies & do hope tat such emotional outcry is not repeated.

I do need to explain why I m so vocal & make a big huha about this issue.

We need to squash and censor such emotional, baseless, unproductive, non-value-added posting lest in time to come, this forum will be degraded into a fish market forum where no serious trader will want to step into & it will also cause harm to newbies who step into this forum in the hope of learning from fellow forumers who are genuine & really willing to share & not to incite fear or greed based on their emotions & ulterior motives.

In fact, admin should warn & after the 3rd warning, if such negative forumers should persist in baselessly inciting emotions, greed & fear, should bar & block their IP address to protect the integrity & wholesomeness of this forum.

Our objectives is to keep this forum wholesome & beneficial to fellow forumers so tat we all learn & grow & prospere together.

cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:

never mind, quarrelling and arguing is good for the soul, the more you argue, the more you learn unknowingly..,the more u come to like each other.

not that i support it , i am for it 100%...are you surprise?

the person i argue and quarrel the most on this planet is my wife, but at the end of the day we still sleep in the same bed., what to do, my wife ..mah.

quarreling and arguing and debating is like the process of refining gold....it can only get purer...99.999%..and that is why she is still my wife....becuase we know what each other want..

i hope you ppl do keep posting and contributing and of course keep arguing so we can learn fr you all..

but pls do remember, this is a FACELESS forum, so dont need to be pai say if wrong, or better if you are right, because we make money fr your tips..

at the end of the day, you are still you, and him or her is still him or her..

win or lose does not matter..it dies with the feeling...let it dies..then both will be fine.

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30-May-2009 08:23

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hahaha.... Smiley thanks cheongwee for the very unbiased view, modern family needs more people with minds like you - the ability to view squabbles in family as learning and understanding one another - instead of throwing in the towel or worst settle with one's fist. if i have children, will surely introduce to your son/daughter if they share the same view as you! ok... before i get too emotional again... hahaha... Smiley

since richtan is so gracious to "appreciate & hereby express his sincere gratitude to me for correcting his Chinese", i should reciprocate his gracious and acknowledge that i do "appreciate & hereby express my sincere gratitude" to him for his views as i am sure that there are many who benefitted from richtan and there are some who did not, just like some who has benefitted from this green horn's view and some who has not. Smiley am sure an experienced teacher like richtan has more to teach everyone, similarly he has more to learn from everyone - greenhorn or not greenhorn.

cheongwee ( Date: 30-May-2009 02:54) Posted:

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30-May-2009 00:28

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:) no need to say "this forumer is really a greenhorn though u may never admit it to save your face. A thief never admit he is a thief." hahaha... already admitted i am a green horn long ago la. Smiley don't think it is going to take one "years to accumulate & thousands & hours" to figure this out lor.

hahaha... anyway, am not invested in this yet so doesn't really matter to me whether it goes up or goes down, so there's nothing emotional about it. and similarly, a lesson to everyone (to quote a veteran) is not to get too emotional when there is "another 1807 lots mopped up from the seller at 19 cts, with all these hugh (sic) accumulations, very soon will burst upward leow" Smiley just in case someone rant "Pu chi how ren sin, ko yau li tong pin" (should be "gou yao lu dong bin, bu zhi hao ren xin"), let's learn from each other.

anfield_76 ( Date: 29-May-2009 06:56) Posted:

hahaha... am no expert in this area (no one really is in this forum), i must totally agree with you!

at 21.27, the post was so optimistic. at 22.33, the post became one of "covering one's ass". Smiley

let me be an expert just this once follow your rule and boldly declare:

"today's (29th may) market will be optimistic, share prices will rise UNLESS there is some bad news released after the trading starts"

logically, i am correct either way Smiley CONGRATULATIONS TO ME IN ADVANCE! *clap* *clap* *clap*

richtan ( Date: 28-May-2009 22:33) Posted:

After all being said about syndicates accumulation, nothing is cast in stones as "Man proposes, GOD disposes", syndicates are also exposed to events beyond their control, if US mkts drop heavily tonite, (touch wood), they too might be played out and could possibly be overwhelmed by the mass selling, unless if they have cornered enuf lots or still have enuf firepower to mop up those selling or they may even be prepared to cut massive losses if they sense tat the tide is too strong for them to withstand, conserve their bullets to fight another day

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