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| 05-Aug-2007 23:55 |
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How to turn profit in Bear market
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yea. agree with hohokit and vic. the market is always here. elfie def on sidelines for now. dun see much pt in shorting, since if you lk at the charts for a lot of counters, the downside is rather limited for a single day short. no sense risking thousands to gain hundreds. but ok, that's just my opinion. anw, just sitting out like hohokit. ie, wait and see. :) |
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| 05-Aug-2007 18:55 |
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baseerahmed, great to hear that you learnt a lot from the course! billywows. haha, what kind of FA... elfie gotta learn from ya then. :) agree with ipunter. gonna be a long time before can scoop up opps. ah well. just sit back now then... |
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| 05-Aug-2007 18:51 |
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SCI releases its results on aug 7. might not be a good idea to short it since its results will be good, in line with kepcorp... just my opinion, caveat emptor. |
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| 05-Aug-2007 18:47 |
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Meaning of corner stock
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hi chinchye, generally (going by victorian's numbers), you'd consider a stock cornered if 70% or more is in the top twenty shareholders hands, and when the sellers dictate the px rather than the buyers (ie, more ppl want to buy but few want to sell). note that top twenty shareholders need not be related to the company, since if all the company's directors/related own 70%, then they're requested to make a GO for the stock. your minus-ing thing is in estimating free float (ie, amt available to the retail public): if it's negative free float, means the stock is just changing hands between ppl, but likely BB are not selling already; have kept it locked up. quite difficult to ascertain this tho, since unless you track the counterparty, it might or might not be one of the top 20 selling/buying. can just be retail noise. eg, jade and a few others were in severe negative free float before the trading curbs. means ppl churning the counter. hope this helps. :) |
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| 05-Aug-2007 18:41 |
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Time for Re Rating?
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hi shplayer, what's the % of stl that is in top shareholders hands? have been waiting for this counter to finish its downtrend. it's on my watchlist for 4Q of year. prob with the dow now, no hurry tho. quite weak; but less because of the stock itself, more cos of overall sentiment. |
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| 05-Aug-2007 18:35 |
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ROWSLEY LTD
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PE ratio = share price divided by earnings per share, which gives you an estimate of the profitability of the company, and whether it is too expensive or not. Each industry has a PE ratio range that it trades in; so if a stock trades at a low PE ratio (relative to its peers), its regarded to be at a discount compared to its peers, all things being equal. rowlsey PE is negative 7.8, means the co is actually in debt. so for every $285 you pay (last done px), you're buying a debt of -$36.50. generally, you'd look for positive PE, since anything negative means the co is actually in debt and losing money. note that PE ratio is a backdated thing tho, ie, it doesn't factor in potential earnings, which you can calculate (ie, the forward PE), by counting the estimated profit that the co will make, and working it into the figure, times the average PE ratio of the co/industry, to give you a fair value estimate of the future share px. good luck! :) |
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| 05-Aug-2007 00:28 |
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what going happen on monday in stocks market?
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hm. yea davecsh. agree with you...the sti will drop, due to the banks and props being part of its component stocks; but individual counters, think the selling might be limited, since those who had to sell wld have been forced to sell last week already. likely sideways for most other counters--expect the usual 9 am to 10 am panic selling of course. but anw, let's not have 'views' and all. just wait and see. no pt speculating; might blind one to the actual pic happening. agree with billywows that the govt will likely cool down the prop market during the rally speech tho! lol. |
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| 05-Aug-2007 00:21 |
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yea totally crazy market. all fundamentals have flown out of the window. all shortists and contra-ists now. am not quite sure if it'll indeed be a bloodbath monday tho. most have been sold off alr....banks will drop definitely; but not sure abt the rest. let's see. what does billywows work in/as? :) |
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| 05-Aug-2007 00:06 |
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lol. am sure there'll be more sessions in future if the demand is there. :) was sorry to have to miss it. |
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| 05-Aug-2007 00:02 |
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hey billywows, you're back. :) how's it going? |
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| 04-Aug-2007 23:59 |
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hi baseerahmed, how was the session? sian. market's bad, all the doomsday naysayers and shortists are out. think wiser to keep out than to short or long tho. cos in 1st place, most are already oversold....dunno lah. elf thinks pointless to talk or speculate so much. just let market dictate movement, and follow accordingly. damn the US tho. |
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| 04-Aug-2007 13:57 |
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ahhhh!! so cute so cute! :)))))) thanks cks! and hehe, pardon to the rest. :P market wise: be careful, everyone. no need for heroics, or arguments on bull/bears etc. caution advised. lock out what profits you have, sit back. like hohokit said in anr thread, the market's always there. so no need to go rushing in: whether you're talking long or short positions. always play only with what you're comfortable with. time to scale back and go to sleep. :) byes all! weekend's time to enjoy. esp since work very stressful. sigh. which is where the puppies come in handy! :))) |
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| 04-Aug-2007 00:26 |
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man, you've just got to love cks's posts. hehe. they sure brighten up a dull/stressful day. where do you get your emoticons from? elf likes the singing choir. and the cheerleaders! they look so happy. sigh. i wanna be an emoticon. sigh. haha. and wah...shplayer....be nice leh.... hehe. zzzz....insomniac...sleepy but can't sleep. sigh. i want a puppie. wail. a real one, not a rogue! sigh. meh meh mehhhh. there i go into kb mode again. hahahahahha! |
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| 04-Aug-2007 00:22 |
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keke. kilroy! *hugs* :)))) elfie just woke up abt 930 just now, so kinda hanging ard. mebbe will go sleep again soon...hm. gotta learn forex (or at least, the mtds) from ya one day...thanks for the elaboration on the dif kind of tech stops the other day yea. JPY: they were saying might raise interest rates. sian. |
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| 04-Aug-2007 00:04 |
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haha, imall29, relax lah.... the sti can never go to zero. since for it to go to zero, means ALL the component stocks of the STI goes bust. you're talking about companies like SPC, SMRT, ST Engg, Sembcorp, etc. simple question: can they all go broke, at the same time? Look at their NAVs, look at their earnings. The basis of the stock market is fundamental value. if all these companies cannot go bust at the same time, then, sti can never fall to zero. it's basic market logic. as for gold: this instrument is traditionally used as a hedge against the dollar. specifically, the US dollar. So sometimes, when gold prices rise, it may not be that the value of gold increases, but that the value of the US dollar drops. Those who buy physical gold--ie, asset allocated gold--(as opposed to gold ETFs denominated in other currencies etc) need to remember that when you transact back, you transact back to the USD. which if it is down, does cut out some of your gains. it's like a currency fixed deposits. So in that sense, gold is just another instrument. It will go up, yes, since it is a commodity whose quantity is decreasing. But need to weigh both the pros and cons: the value of gold has to exceed the drop in the USD (so kinda like playing forex really), and you have to be able to sell off your gold: gold buyers only buy in 1 tonne or more. Then there is also the issue of where you are storing your gold--i'm assuming a serious investor has at least a few 100 kgs, in order to make it worthwhile---if it's in a warehouse, you need insurance, you need to buy the space as well. It is certainly a very good investment hedge to possess; but each individual needs to consider his/her trading personality, and what kind of gold you want (asset allocated, vs ETFs, vs certs), plus their pros and cons, before jumping in. in any case, up market or down market, there's always a chance to make money. it's simply a question of watching for the opportunity, and playing with, not against your own personality. Never say die. (of course, don't go jumping in anyhow too!) cheers to all! 
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| 03-Aug-2007 23:54 |
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Time To Bottom Fish?
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arghghhhh!!! spelling!!! it's rojak, and trend! *wail* haha. :P nites. |
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| 03-Aug-2007 23:51 |
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It seemed Fewer Contributions in this Forum...?
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ah. finally found back this thread. daffodils, hope the following info helps. pls do take it as just another opinion, and not the gospel truth, alright? strictly my opinion. do make up your own mind. :) note: i do not know your buy prices, the amt of funds you have, and your trading personality, so can't tell you whether to even up or sell some or lock in. but briefly, in my own opinion: the ones worth keeping long term: RH energy, yangjiziang, straitsA. respectively an energy play, a shipping play and a commodities (mainly coal) play. so there's sufficient diversity. as for the rest: look for a chance to sell into strength, rather than dumping at one go, esp if you are holding a lot of the counter. the aim, like kilroy said, is to minimise loss. alternative is to buy in at nadir and average down. but that might be risky in this market plus assumes you have backup funds and time to wait. won't give the full tech details since too many of them here. hehe. YHI in midst of downtrending even before this drop. punted counter tho, and close to oversold; so will likely rebound a little. wait for recovery to abt 45-48c to sell. You don't have to cut it since it's been trading around this range since last year. (as eastonbay observed alr). ChinaAngel: near its 52 week low and oversold. so wait for rebound to sell into strength. SJ doesn't show charts for this counter (?), so i can't give the px guide. apologies. CSC: rebounding for now but this counter is seriously overvalued and too speculative. look for opp to sell into strength. esp since the viable support at 31c and then again at 17c. (ie, when it hits a peak and starts turning down, sell it. williams is your best guide in this market: look for an up and a turning to down: sell on the turn to down. same goes for the other counters in same boat). ipco: sell if it rebounds to abt 10c. has been on downtrend since before the US jitters actually. be careful of a break below 7c. jackspeed: downtrending even before this. cut asap. vol dropping too low alr. plus, at all time high, so there's quite a steep fall possible still, but upside is limited. multicon: support at ~21c. already oversold. so shd likely rebound. possibly to the mid-30s range. might have to wait for a bit tho. in midst of MACD downtrend. if you want to play safe, sell a bit each time it goes up a bit. i don't know the FA of this company. so use that as your guide (ie, loss making company, then opt for the selling each time it goes up. if it's turning a profit; you can opt to hold for the 30c range.) ok that's it! pls use the above as just a guide and not the be-all and end-all yea. :) also: do watch for macro trends. US market is shaking the entire global scene. the plus point for most of your counters tho, is that most of them are pennies: ie, no foreign funds in them. so what's shaking them is over-speculation and fear: Weed out the speculatives and cut them; hold onto the ones that have some fundamentals. good luck! :)))) zzz...ok elfie going back to sleep...nites! |
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| 03-Aug-2007 09:45 |
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apologies in a bit of a rush now: can't find the NDP rally thread....daffodils, re your counters: have requested for your email via admin, pls do respond; you have quite a few counters, so think might be better to take it offline. but briefly: the selling in spore markets is a bit overdone for now; so if you haven't yet cut, can hold. but look to sell into strength tho; bit by bit; esp for the more speculative ones. i don't know your buy prices, but the main aim shd be to reduce loss and/or slight profit. look overall, not individual counter. cheers! |
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| 03-Aug-2007 09:20 |
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2 Bonus shares to 5 Ordinary Sharees
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means you'll get 2 shares for every 5 that you own; but share px will dilute due to increased share cap. so from today's px of 5.35, you can expect SCI to be rerated to abt 3.82. they're prob doing it to make it more affordable to investors. |
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| 02-Aug-2007 14:30 |
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hm and yea, caveat emptor first: pls take whatever i give as just an opinion, k? i'm not always right! |
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