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Go go above 9,200!
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 12:02) Posted:
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Though I have both, frankly speaking. I much much prefer CHINA JISHAN to CHINA GAOXIAN! Especially for its business expansion plan accordingly, rightly, appropriately, legaly, fairly, transparently and timely go on line with the local Government's finacial and economical programme general guide lines!
rabbitfoot ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:42) Posted:
wow, you must be stage 8 Master now, with your investment in China Jishan.
Too bad for me, I have written off my Gaoxian, Hopefully though, it will be back this Aug.
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:33) Posted:
| It is very good, reaching the more afordable price level , though artificially perhaps! Good opportunity for every one (INVESTORS)to heavily add their holding of such stocks, while its share price artificially severely undeserved low level! CAVEAT EMPTOR |
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About critical important part!
Gaecia ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:42) Posted:
about which part?
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:18) Posted:
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Good comments, I strongly, totally agree with you! Thank you for the constructive posting!
Laulan ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:30) Posted:
I think again, and reason that if S-Chips are that bad, why have them approved for listing in the first place. And why slap themselves in the face and exposing their lack of foresight, expertise or lack of good bourses governance. It goes to show that authorities in the relevant exchanges are either sleeping or they could be they are in cahoots with dishonourable elements of the markets. Don't tell me that they can't differentiate between a good set of accounts and a lying account? Something is wrong somewhere, where is the due diligence, the responsibility to the investing public?
But anyway, it is not too late now to tackle the S-Chip problems properly. The law must be passed that all directors are personally liable for all deeds of their listed company's transaction and can be sued as a person in relation to their companies and not just the company being sued as a legal entity that they enjoy. Company laws must be change for list companies (public companies, especially the listed ones). In addition, the accountants and auditors (whistler blowers) must both have certain liabilities over the affairs of the companies they are accounting or auditing because they are paid to do the job. So before and after listing, they should be accountable like the architects who are accountable for the collapse of a building due to structural faults found in later years. If there are such a protective framework in place, I think the market place will be a safer one. |
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It is very good, reaching the more afordable price level , though artificially perhaps! Good opportunity for every one (INVESTORS)to heavily add their holding of such stocks, while its share price artificially severely undeserved low level! CAVEAT EMPTOR.
rabbitfoot ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:25) Posted:
Gee Thanks for the advice. Btw, hows your Jishan getting on ?
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:51) Posted:
| At stage 6, I commence turning myself from Trader into genuine Investor, Bingo. . . . . . . . I get the RIGHT answer, and go through stage 7 and on and on, so on! |
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Is China and USA on their unprecedented " ECONOMICAL COLD WAR" process, since last three years? Economic professional experts here, Please enlighten me!
Salute ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 11:12) Posted:
this is different from what you said that " VIP" is the reason that made people not taking the things out. If there is a good lead, I will second it.
look how the revolt for the subpressing treatment in the ME that influence the rest of the world
and how the people in HK voice out the Lehman's matter and come to singapore.
anything needs a strong lead. ...doesn't mean that people are fearful of one particular person.
China's matter is pretty bad and is known internationally.......therefore it's ok what we have been " scolding"
medivh ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:24) Posted:
Yes times have change.. people have changed..
What I mean is that since this is so, why no one here is SG actually do the real action by bringing these companies to the law? Some years back .. S-chips already is in the system and already some have delisted due to these accouting discrepancies..and some have already experienced, but no one dared to do anything. even till now.. (last time..Ferror china, Zilong etc.. just recently ,, HW, HX, CGX) . still no one bothers anyway.. all sitting down to lick their wounds here, and just accepting the loss.. .. LOL |
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Remember: STI will hardly be bullish without most of the good S-chips are subjected recovery from their bottom prices first! In other words, S-chips sign of recovery will lead the STI index upward trend! Generally speaking, China economic will lead all the Asean countries economics this time!
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:36) Posted:
Come here to short it down !! especially S-Chips !
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:30) Posted:
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At stage 6, I commence turning myself from Trader into genuine Investor, Bingo. . . . . . . . I get the RIGHT answer, and go through stage 7 and on and on, so on!
rabbitfoot ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:41) Posted:
at stage 6 now, still cant quit my mundane job
alexchia01 ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:36) Posted:
To be a successful full time trader... you need to go through these various stages.
Stage
1 - A New Bight Sky. You know that there are people who made money from
the stock market and you think you can do it as well. You open a
trading account and start trading the market. You Buy and Sell actions
are based on news, magazines and what other people says. Your strategy
are from books you read from the bookstore.
Stage 2 - A New
Frustration. What ever you buy goes underwater and you make a loss in
the market. You beginning to think your way of trading is wrong and you
start finding other ways to improve your trading success.
Stage 3 -
A New Hope. You found a trading/investing course or guru that promises
you great success if you follow their strategy. You immediately sign up
for the course and learn whatever the guru teaches. You are eager to
start trading again. With this new found knowledge, you'll not loss
again, so that's what you think.
Stage 4 - A New Desperation.
After following the new strategy, you are still not making money. Worst
still, you are even more underwater and losing more than you first
stared. You are desperate and confused, you don't know what to do. How
to tell your family members that you loss so much money in the stock
market.
Stage 5 - A New Change. At this stage you have two
choices... Call it quit or start all over again. 95% of the people will
give up during this stage. The heat is just too much for them. But a few
will not give up and they will continue to find the right way.
Stage
6 - A New Beginning. You go back to the basics and starts small. You
analyze at your own character and develop a strategy that best suits
you. You back-test your strategy making sure that it works for you. If
your trade fail, you review it and use the new findings to improve your
strategy.
Stage 7 - A New Freedom. Slowly, but surely, your
strategy works. You start making money from the market. Your confident
grows and you decided it's time to ramp it up. You increase your trading
activities as to fully optimize your success, your wealth grow. You are
not scare of market turns because you are ready for them. You have made
it!
95% of the people will give up on stage 5. Which stage are you in now?
There is no short cuts. Believe me, even when you know this, you'll still have to go through all the stages.
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Just small note. It is written " S-cheat" in your posting, that is not appropriate! Why can't we just write S-chip or S-chips?
AnthonyTan ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:31) Posted:
As long as you do not slander anybody and express
your personal view points should be safe , e.g. why
I think this S-cheat stock is no good blah blah blah.
Laulan ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:30) Posted:
Just because there are a number of S-Chip cheats it does not mean that one should shun China companies. There are hundreds of good ones, and these are really solid companies although in recent years many of them are undervalued owing to two factors. One is the dragged by really swindlers entering the corporate world via China listings, and the other has been the constant bad rumouring done by anti-Chinese elements who want to bring down the Chinese economy. Really, there are many in the US envious of Chinese growth. Some anti-Chinese westerners are colluding with rebel Tibetans to do damage to their own country.
Whatever it is, when posting insidious remarks we should know we can be traced via our IP Address that our computer is assigned with to connect to the internet. So don't anyhow say things that can disparage the reputation directly of one person or another. This can create a liability to be sued. |
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Yes, I take note. Thank you, iPunter and Isolator.
iPunter ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:30) Posted:
This post by sifu Isolator is an extremely
valuable one for all traders and investors alike.
Unconforming methodology and sensibility
are priceless attributes in this game...
On behalf of all, thank you, Sir...
Isolator ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:16) Posted:
Go back to the basis of TAs like patterns, MAs, waves, macd, fibo etc.... You should be able to spot most.... BUT you should learn to use them the UNstandard way.... lol
You must have a strong capital to play trend changing.... You will enter too early which may go against you, so you need to be able to hold and average.... |
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It should be so, I think!
niuyear ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:38) Posted:
| hedge fund companies are slowly moving here. |
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Since it is a very good opportunity to us, while some GOOD FUNDAMENTAL FINANCIAL STATUS, PROMISING BUSINESS PROSPECT, SUSTAINABLE GROWTH S-chips on all severely undeserved prices level, hence, I am eating them as much as I can! CAVEAT EMPTOR.
des_khor ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 10:21) Posted:
Are you still eating Taiwanese food stuffs for now or just avoid first for clearer picture ? This is very similar to our S-Chips situation now !
Laulan ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:30) Posted:
Just because there are a number of S-Chip cheats it does not mean that one should shun China companies. There are hundreds of good ones, and these are really solid companies although in recent years many of them are undervalued owing to two factors. One is the dragged by really swindlers entering the corporate world via China listings, and the other has been the constant bad rumouring done by anti-Chinese elements who want to bring down the Chinese economy. Really, there are many in the US envious of Chinese growth. Some anti-Chinese westerners are colluding with rebel Tibetans to do damage to their own country.
Whatever it is, when posting insidious remarks we should know we can be traced via our IP Address that our computer is assigned with to connect to the internet. So don't anyhow say things that can disparage the reputation directly of one person or another. This can create a liability to be sued. |
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It is a fair judgement, very wise and observant, I should say!
Laulan ( Date: 13-Jun-2011 09:30) Posted:
Just because there are a number of S-Chip cheats it does not mean that one should shun China companies. There are hundreds of good ones, and these are really solid companies although in recent years many of them are undervalued owing to two factors. One is the dragged by really swindlers entering the corporate world via China listings, and the other has been the constant bad rumouring done by anti-Chinese elements who want to bring down the Chinese economy. Really, there are many in the US envious of Chinese growth. Some anti-Chinese westerners are colluding with rebel Tibetans to do damage to their own country.
Whatever it is, when posting insidious remarks we should know we can be traced via our IP Address that our computer is assigned with to connect to the internet. So don't anyhow say things that can disparage the reputation directly of one person or another. This can create a liability to be sued. |
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Are you serious?
Gaecia ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 12:51) Posted:
*chuckles* No lah, i just prefer to read things at night. Don't you?
Gee...if Straits Asia gaps up on me @opening tmr, i'll really faint.
lol Think i better have some udders ice-cream later to de-stress, the strawberry fields & liquor flavors are real nice!
Since the world is coming to an end in 2012, you all still don't wanna have a get-together session? You all sooo very bad ahh, waiting for the sun to set on us is it?
Hulumas ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 09:55) Posted:
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I believe, you have gotten the right data, I suppose!
tanglinboy ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 17:33) Posted:
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Absolutely not yourself, but not for them and SG accountants too!
des_khor ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 23:38) Posted:
Pls anwser me who more than qualify to make fake accounting ?
Hulumas ( Date: 11-Jun-2011 13:56) Posted:
| So insulting comment without considering any disastrous consequences financially for yourself. Mind your sentence please! |
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You should not have any expectation in the first place, before give them any compliment. That is the right spirit of any help/work!
des_khor ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 23:40) Posted:
So ? What do you think ?
Hulumas ( Date: 11-Jun-2011 13:58) Posted:
| Funny expectation, is not it |
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Wait and see then.
rabbitfoot ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 15:22) Posted:
Coming week will be crucial, MAKE or Break : ) |
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Trend roughly could be observed (that is the investment science), as how short and how long the trend will be ended or reversed are hardly noticed. (that is the investment art).
iPunter ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 12:55) Posted:
So since no one can tell the trend,
it makes sense to pocket goodly profits already bestowed.
But not forgetting that a trend can also last a long time
(many weeks, months or years)...
Hulumas ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 12:46) Posted:
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Wakarimashita, arigatho!
iPunter ( Date: 12-Jun-2011 10:22) Posted:
Making money in stocks is only all about
buying low and selling high (capturing profits).
And to do this well, the first requirement is one's flexibilty.
Flexibility is the direct result of humility (respect the market).
Any 'combat' with the stock market is just EGO at work. .
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