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21-Feb-2010 23:17 Genting Sing   /   GenSp starts to move up again       Go to Message
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This stock will be like the chip on the gambling table.

Sure lose.

Sell out.

The fury is over. Be realistic.

SMRT will stood a better chance to beat it over next 3 years,
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21-Feb-2010 23:15 Yanlord Land   /   Yanlord Dome Collapses       Go to Message
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Confirm bear trap,

Sell on rebound.

Buy at below $1.

For S chip, nothing is impossible.
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20-Feb-2010 13:18 Ying Li Intl   /   Ying Li       Go to Message
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Buy at 10cents only.

 
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20-Feb-2010 13:13 Allgreen   /   Allgreen - Can buy ?       Go to Message
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Buy only at 50cents
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18-Feb-2010 20:00 ChinaMilk   /   China Milk       Go to Message
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actually TA was already showing signs of sudden weakness  but a sudden push last 2 months bluff a lot of gullible FA investors because of its profit last few years.

Some more it was one of the first few S chip to redeem CB last year. And the last thing to have bust it now is CB.

Seems investing in S chip needs not jusr TA, FA, MA but lot of luck and monitoring.

Think only S chip worth considering in entire SGX is Yanlord but again price too high for me.

 
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15-Feb-2010 01:07 Others   /   DOW & STI       Go to Message
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S&P P/E :

Current P/E: 19.50 -0.05 (-0.27%)
Mean: 16.35
Median: 12.87
Min: 4.78 (Dec 1920)
Max: 44.20 (Dec 1999)
So nothing much to be excited.
If it drops by 30% , reaching median then probably worthbuying, otherwise keep money in the bank
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15-Feb-2010 00:49 Allgreen   /   Allgreen - Can buy ?       Go to Message
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Gong Xi Fa Cai......

Be Patient.

 

Quoted "

Asset-price bubbles have been the cause of most of the recent economic downturns, including the most recent one. But how do you know when a bubble is forming? If central bankers, regulators and investors knew the answer to the question, they might be able to avoid them.

Robert J. Shiller, a well-known Yale economist, suggested on Wednesday — a bit whimsically — that bubbles could be diagnosed using the same methodology psychologists use to diagnose mental illness.

After all, a bubble is a form of psychological malfunction. And like mental illness there’s a tricky gray area between being really sick and just having a few problems, Mr. Shiller said during a panel discussion at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

The solution: a checklist like psychologists use to determine if someone is suffering from, say, depression. So here is Mr. Shiller’s checklist.

* Sharp increases in the price of an asset like real estate or dot-com shares
* Great public excitement about said increases
* An accompanying media frenzy
* Stories of people earning a lot of money, causing envy among people who aren’t
* Growing interest in the asset class among the general public
* “New era” theories to justify unprecedented price increases
* A decline in lending standards

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CLearly we are not seeing any of this, and hence no dramatic increase in property price nor its stock price. So dun buy first, wait for the opposite to happen then buy.

 

Huat ah

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14-Feb-2010 10:29 Yanlord Land   /   Yanlord Dome Collapses       Go to Message
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Gong Xi FA Cai

 

SEll, on its way to $1.20.

A bit of bounce is normal, do not be fooled by its innocence
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14-Feb-2010 10:21 Entertainment   /   Seven Sins of Stock Investing       Go to Message
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Gong Xi Fa Cai.

Tiger Year 1974, 1986, 1998, 2010........

Learn from experience.

Be patience.

Every experience from your loss is a wake up call. Do not take it lightly.

Stock investing is business language i.e LONG TERM

Sin24) Gambling is short term, go to IR if you need to do it. Apply gambling in Stock investing is contrary to each other and spell doom.

Wish everyone Happy, Healthy and Huaterous Tiger 2010.

The next Tiger Year should see STI hit 5k. Huat ahhhhhhhh!!!!!
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14-Feb-2010 10:08 Ying Li Intl   /   Ying Li       Go to Message
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Gong Xi Fa Cai for those who can buy at ten cents.

 

Feb. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Jack Rodman, who has made a career of selling soured property loans from Los Angeles to Tokyo, sees a crash looming in China. He keeps a slide show on his computer of empty office buildings in Beijing, his home since 2002. The tally: 55, with another dozen candidates.

I took these pictures to try to impress upon these people the massive amount of oversupply, said Rodman, 63, president of Global Distressed Solutions LLC, which advises private equity and hedge funds on Chinese property and banking. Rodman figures about half of the citys commercial space is vacant, more than was leased in Germanys five biggest office markets in 2009.

Beijings office vacancy rate of 22.4 percent in the third quarter of last year was the ninth-highest of 103 markets tracked by CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., a real estate broker. Those figures dont include many buildings about to open, such as the citys tallest, the 6.6-billion yuan ($966 million) 74- story China World Tower 3.

Empty buildings are sprouting across China as companies with access to some of the $1.4 trillion in new loans last year build skyscrapers. Former Morgan Stanley chief Asia economist Andy Xie and hedge fund manager James Chanos say the countrys property market is in a bubble.

Theres a monumental property bubble and fixed-asset investment bubble that China has underway right now, Chanos said in a Jan. 25 Bloomberg Television interview. And deflating that gently will be difficult at best.

Third Costliest

Investor concerns have spread beyond real estate. Among 15 major Asian markets, the benchmark Shanghai Composite Index is valued third-highest relative to estimates for this years earnings, after Japan and India, even after falling 8 percent this year.

A glut of factories in China is wreaking far-reaching damage on the global economy, stoking trade tensions and raising the risk of bad loans, the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China said in November.

More than 60 percent of investors surveyed by Bloomberg on Jan. 19 said they viewed China as a bubble, and three in 10 said it posed the greatest downside risk. The quarterly poll interviewed a random sample of 873 Bloomberg subscribers and had a margin of error of 3.3 percentage points.

Digesting the debt from a popped property bubble may slash bank lending and drag growth lower for years in an economy that Nomura Holdings Inc., Japans biggest brokerage, says will provide more than a third of world growth in 2010.

Japanese Comparison

The risks are so great that a decade of little or no growth, as Japan experienced in the 1990s, cant be dismissed, said Patrick Chovanec, an associate professor in the School of Economics and Management at Beijings Tsinghua University, ranked Chinas top university by the Times newspaper in London.

The Nikkei 225 Stock Average surged sixfold and commercial property prices in metropolitan Tokyo rose fourfold before the bubble burst in 1990. The Nikkei trades at about a quarter of its December 1989 peak.

You have state-owned enterprises using borrowed funds from the stimulus bidding up the price of land -- not even desirable plots of land -- in Beijing to astronomical rates, Chovanec said. At the same time you have 30 percent-plus vacancy rates and slumping rents in commercial property so its just a case of when you recognize the losses -- or dont.

Chinas lending surged to 1.39 trillion yuan in January, more than in the previous three months combined. Property prices in 70 cities climbed 9.5 percent from a year earlier, the most in 21 months.

Reasonable Control

Policy makers are starting to rein in the loans that helped fuel the property boom. Banks should strictly follow real estate lending policies, the China Banking Regulatory Commission said on its Web site on Jan. 27. It called for banks to reasonably control lending growth.

The Peoples Bank of China today ordered banks to set aside more deposits as reserves for the second time in a month to help cool expansion in lending. The requirement will increase 50 basis points effective Feb. 25, the central bank said on its Web site. The current level is 16 percent for big banks and 14 percent for smaller ones.

The liquidity bubble last year went to the property market, said Taizo Ishida, San Francisco-based lead manager for the $212-million Matthews Asia Pacific Fund, in a phone interview. I was in Shanghai and Shenzhen three weeks ago and the prices were just eye-popping, just really amazing. Generally Im not buying Chinese stocks.

Dubai Times 1,000

Chanos, founder of New York-based Kynikos Associates Ltd., predicted that China could be Dubai times 100 or 1,000. Real estate prices there have fallen almost 50 percent from their 2008 peak as the emirate struggles under at least $80 billion of debt. The economy may shrink 0.4 percent this year, Shuaa Capital, the biggest U.A.E. investment bank, says.

The commercial property space under construction in China at the end of November was the equivalent of 6,800 Burj Khalifas -- the 160-story Dubai skyscraper thats the worlds tallest.

Its difficult to determine how exposed Chinese banks are to real estate debt because loans booked to some state-owned companies as industrial lending may have been used to invest in property, say Xie and Charlene Chu, who analyzes Chinese banks for London-based Fitch Ratings Ltd. in Beijing.

A drop in the property market may be accompanied by a surge in nonperforming loans. The Shanghai office of the banking regulatory commission said on Feb. 4 that a 10 percent fall in property values would triple the ratio of delinquent mortgages there.

Bank Shares

Hong Kong-listed Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd., the worlds largest bank by market capitalization, has dropped 13 percent this year. China Construction Bank Corp., the second-largest, has fallen 11 percent. Both are based in Beijing. Hong Kongs benchmark Hang Seng Index has declined 7.3 percent over the same period.

Fund manager Joseph Zeng says he has a contrarian view on Chinas banks, on the grounds that rising interest rates this year will benefit their net interest margins.

For us, non-performing loans are not expected to be a big issue until 2013, the peak of the current economic cycle, said Zeng, head of Greenwoods Asset Management Ltd.s Hong Kong office, in a phone interview. He declined to say what he is buying. Greenwoods has more than $500 million under management.

China has firepower to deal with a crisis. The nation has the worlds largest foreign exchange reserves, at $2.4 trillion, and government debt of only about 20 percent of GDP last year, according to the International Monetary Fund. That compares with 85 percent in India and the U.S. and 219 percent in Japan.

Own-Use Excluded

CB Richard Ellis doesnt count empty office buildings bought by banks and insurance companies when calculating vacancy rates, since some of the space is for the owners use. The Los Angeles-based company said in a report that vacancy rates are starting to fall and rents to rise for the best office buildings as Chinas fast economic growth buoys demand.

Gross domestic product expanded 10.7 percent in the fourth quarter from a year before, a two-year-high, after the government introduced a $586-billion stimulus package.

In many cases when you look at these buildings and say, thats never going to be fully occupied, somehow 12 to 18 months later the building is full, said Chris Brooke, CB Richard Elliss Beijing-based president and chief executive officer for Asia.

Overcapacity may be looming in manufacturing as well. Chinas investments in new factories and properties surged 67 percent last year to 15.2 trillion yuan, more than Russias gross domestic product. Excess steel capacity may have reached about 132 million tons in 2009, more than the 87.5 million tons from Japan, the worlds second-biggest producer. The Beijing- based EU Chamber of Commerce report said a looming deluge of extra cement capacity is being built.

Balance Sheet Deterioration

While neither Xie nor Chu see nonperforming loan ratios reaching the level of a decade ago, when they made up 40 percent of total lending, they say banks will see deterioration in their balance sheets.

A lot of people will lose a lot of money, but the banks will probably not go down like in the 1990s, Xie said in a phone interview. Of course there will be a lot of bad debts. There will be a lot of mortgages gone bad I think.

Rodman displays the slide show to private equity and hedge fund clients brought in by banks such as Goldman Sachs Group Inc. at his office in eastern Beijing.

China is the only place in the world that despite having more empty buildings than the rest of the world has yet to reflect those valuations on their balance sheet, Rodman said.

Empty Buildings

Gazing south from the building that houses the Beijing headquarters of Goldman Sachs, UBS AG and JPMorgan Chase & Co., one of the first structures in the field of vision is a 17-story office tower at No. 9 Financial Street. Empty.

Farther along are the two 18-story towers of the Bank of Communications Co. complex. Dirt is gathering at the doors and the lobby is now a bicycle parking lot. A spokeswoman for the Shanghai-based lender didnt return phone calls and e-mails.

The supply of office buildings will continue to grow. Jones Lang LaSalle Inc., a Chicago-based real-estate company, estimates that about 1.2 million square meters (12.9 million square feet) of office space in Beijing will come on line this year, adding to the total stock of 9.2 million square meters.

The city government is driving growth regardless of the market. Financial Street Holding Co., whose biggest shareholder is the local municipal district, plans to build 1 million square meters of additional office space starting this year, and is talking to potential clients such as JPMorgan, said Lydia Wang, the companys head of investor relations.

Doubling the CBD

Across town, the district government is seeking to double the size of the citys Central Business District, which already has the highest vacancy rate ever recorded in Beijing. It was 35 percent at the end of 2009, according to Jones Lang LaSalle.

For its part, Beijing-based Financial Street Holdings has 100 percent of its properties, which include the Ritz Carlton hotel and a shopping mall, rented out, Wang said. The empty buildings along Finance Street dont belong to the company, which is 26.6 percent owned by the district government.

Zhong Rongming, deputy general manager of the Beijing- based China World Trade Center Co., which built China World Tower 3, said the company is optimistic about 2010 prospects given Chinas accelerating economic growth. He said the new tower will include tenants such as Mitsui & Co. and the Asian Development Bank.

One new addition to Finance Street may give real estate boosters cause for concern. No. 8 Finance Street will be the headquarters for China Huarong Asset Management Corp.
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14-Feb-2010 10:01 ChinaMilk   /   China Milk       Go to Message
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Gong Xi Fa Cai for those who can buy at ten cents.


If the cows and milk are still there, there's still milk for everyone.

 

Huat ah
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12-Feb-2010 00:55 ChinaMilk   /   China Milk       Go to Message
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Buy 20cents is the max you must buy.

May go below 10cents if the cash flow and balance situation mismanage

Seems the milk is not virgin enough to entice customer,

but if you believe the cows will hold the fort and fight the bear, maybe can consider to buy, otherwise dun touch.

Our S chip is notoriously infamous
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12-Feb-2010 00:42 Ying Li Intl   /   Ying Li       Go to Message
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Buy 10 cents .

No hurry.

 

Mean time load up your bullets

 
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06-Feb-2010 01:10 Entertainment   /   Seven Sins of Stock Investing       Go to Message
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That 9 months rally was just a full blown bear trap if your eyes looks at a seven year horizon.

When dust settled, it will be crystal clear, just dun invest with leverage cos it will be a suicide mission.

Good luck and heng heng.
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06-Feb-2010 00:57 Keppel Land   /   Kepland       Go to Message
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dun kid yourself, this one will drop back to $2.

faster than you thought
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06-Feb-2010 00:46 Entertainment   /   Seven Sins of Stock Investing       Go to Message
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Whatever you call it,

penny always a penny

Blue chip is different class.

Panic selling means good opportunity but depends when you buy it.

If it is beginning of a bear , then you are buying very x.

But if it has lasted one year or so, then its a good buy.

It takes one year to break any lover's heart to dump its conviction to buy anymore.

And any shortists not to short anymore.

Haha, STI <2000 by 2011.

Huat ah. If this Jan is the beginning of a bear, then now buying is simply too early.

World cup has always shown that equity is a bad call. So keep low profile.

Beside its another Tiger YEar, rem Asian Crisis 98, Singapore 1st Recession 86, Oil Crisi 74,

Tia liao and xiu liao ma chia chia.

2010 European Crisis, how about that? sound matching to the missing puzzle in globalization

 
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06-Feb-2010 00:32 Sinotel Technolo Rg   /   Sinotel       Go to Message
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Anything more than 40cents dun buy.

May hit 34cents before rebounding meaningfully.

Not vested

 
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06-Feb-2010 00:27 Yanlord Land   /   Yanlord Dome Collapses       Go to Message
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Technical chart showing grossly oversold. ADX hitting all time high

May do a rebound back to $1.80 but that's it.

 

After that, $1.20 is confirmed , followed by $1, then $0.70 cents.

May drop in to scoop some by then. 6 bagger from then to $4.20. very possible in ten year time.

 

This is what I called long term investing.Now just wait wait wait wait, dun because of a new cents gain , execute a kamikaze.

God bless.

 
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06-Feb-2010 00:15 SoundGlobal   /   Epure International       Go to Message
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This one stll got legs to go down.

Anything less than 70cents, dun buy.

Too dangerous
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06-Feb-2010 00:04 ChinaMilk   /   China Milk       Go to Message
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20 cents by next month after it announce results.

This one invest only if you have spare cash to lose.

To lose faster, invest above 20cents.

confirm, chop and stamp.

 

 
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